@Dada, Can I beg you, when you have time to start a thread on the issues you mentioned. No rush, but beg you do not allow this issue to be forgotten.

The issue of national and international and regional defence strategies is something I have and had a serious involvement in, and for me is one of the most fundamental issues facing us.

As I mentioned in the Zimbabwe thread. This was a key determinant in why Mugabe had to accept particular conditions under the Lanchester House. I attended the private security briefings where detailed military assessments where given, never made public, to the balance of forces and possible outcomes.

Whites from elite The Rhodesia Selous Scouts, South AFrican SAS,[probably with the Austrailian SAS the best white bush fighters in the business] mercenaries by the battallion were pouring into the country. All compounded by ZANLA having to fight a civil war With ZAPU and their white friends. Cuba had already given a massive commitment in ex Portugues Africa and quite rightly said, "Africans sort your shit out".

We have had to face these issues head on in the Caribbean prior to US invasion, in terms of what formal and informal security mechanism we could evolve for regional security. It is no coincidence when the US entered Grenda, they found so many Africans from neighbouring islands, and as far as Jamaica, under local Command and many more were on their way to the country, when we got news the invasion had taken place.

Cuba has long trained our people. and the Yanks intercepted boats of our people returning from the Jose Marte programme, on thier way to Grenada. Hence why places like Grenada must be crushed by any means, nevermind Cuba.

There is definitely a need for All African Contigency Security Planning and Coordinating Mechanisms at every level. Not only on the Continental Integrated Command Model, outlined by Nkrumah, but locally including our own rapid deployment capability.

I am obviously not going to endorse "Executive Outcomes" and white mercenary organisations. But we need mechanism that work for us.

These type of white outfits have been used in almost most modern African conflicts, particularly Angola and Mozambique and why Cuba offered its specialist forces who were deployed against them during these conflicts.

We need our own mechansims which you are in agreement with. But more importantly, having worked in that environmnet, I think the need is even deeper than simple defence purpose. But in terms of training leaders and creating the ideological "esprite de corps" needed to educate our people and raise conciousness, military/security organisations are perhaps the best instruments we have. The security services are your advanced guards or indication of the corruption and all that is wrong in our society and culture.

Leon Trotsky discovered this truth for himself in the creation of the red army, which were the ideological bastion for the Russian Revolution. We are probably more likely to create quality leaders in large numbers via military/security mechanism, who are less corruptible than from any other sector of our society.

So my dear Dada, I beg you as you have given serious thought on this matter, you are in the position to take leadership, if only in just outlining your thoughts and letting others run with it.

I rememeber when similar issues came up about the Second world war, we have plenty brothers[largely] with knowledge or interest in military issues Africaman, Kwesi, Cashmoney et al are just two names that came to mind. We have sisters like Talibah who definitely has an interest, and no doubt, others. There is a sister who on the Forum who was in the armed forces, and saw service, and we spoke in great deal one to one. So we have the people to chew this over. Doesn't need a whole heap.

So when you have time....

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@Talibah. Thanks for that link sis. You are always there sis and can be relied on.

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