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Post imported post - 11-04-04, 12:57 AM

"also it is a misconception that muslims follow prophet muhammad (pbuh), they follow what was revealled to him and his example and what he taught in the context of submitting ones will to allah which was based on revelation to him."

Isn't that what "following" means...to follow one's EXAMPLE? How can you follow the example of a Man whom you cannot see? All you are doing is following your interpretation of what the Scholars say the Prophet did or said.

It is obvious thatMOST of the Muslim world is NOT following the Prophet's EXAMPLE, becauseProphet Muhammad (PBUH) NEVER said, "call yourself sunni...or shia...or ahmaddiya..." yet, look at all of theseMuslims who are doing JUST THAT. Most ofthe Muslim worldhas deviated from the Path. For that matter, most of the RELIGIOUS world has deviated from the Path of God. Jesus never said, "be baptist, or pentacostal, or apostolic." For that matter, he never said "be Christian". He simply said, "follow me." Iblis (Satan) has certainly kept his word..."I willmake all of them deviate, except thy Purified ones." Or, from the Biblical perspective, the "dragon" has indeed deceived the "whole world"...including the "world" of religion.

The moment you tell me, "I amsunni", or "I am shia", or "I am Baptist", or "I am Methodist," ...at that moment I know I cannot follow you, lest you lead me into deviation with you. I follow the Sunna, but I will never call myself "sunni". I follow the Sharia, but I will never call myself Shia. I am MUSLIM. Nothing more, nothing less.

"...as you refer to the unworthyness of flesh, you follow man which is flesh in the form of elijah, fard and faracon...so are their words not unworthy as they have received no direct revelation and have not been purged of evil deeds and sin, how ever you follow them. i refer to farakan as a con as he will dispute all of this and make you believe he is right and to follow him and his ideas and interpretations, just as elijah done even though he had no authority and could not prove no authority for doing so and the only word of god he could prove was written in the quran which was not revealed to him and contradicts that he or this master fard or any new word the aspire to is any part of islam or that they are being truthfull. this is logical straight fact."

I said the flesh is not worthy to be WORSHIPPED.But Man will always follow Man, as he cannot follow otherthan man. If you will look to the bottom of this message, you will see your words in the Holy Qur'an, denying the notion that Allah would reveal anything to a mortal. Interesting.

If the Hon. Elijah Muhammad and the Hon. Louis Farrakhan have no "Authority", or Divine Backing, then why are they, even now, so successful? A Nation of Islam has been established in the MIDST of the Greatest ENEMY of Islam - the United States of America. The Honorable Louis Farrakhan is recognized and LOVED the world over as a CHAMPION for the Cause of Islam, so much so that the sheiks and muftis have called him "imam". How is this possible if not by the Grace and Backing of Allah?

Your pride and mockery only hurt yourself. It certainly is not hurting me, and DEFINITELY is not hurting Minister Farrakhan or the Success that Allah is Blessing him with.

Surah 17

M. Muhammad Ali
94) And nothing prevents people from believing, when the guidance comes to them, except that they say: Has Allah raised up a mortal to be a messenger?
95) Say: Had there been in the earth angels walking about secure, We would have sent down to them from the heaven an angel as messenger.


YUSUFALI:
94) What kept men back from belief when Guidance came to them, was nothing but this: they said, "Has Allah sent a man (like us) to be (His) Messenger?"
95) Say, "If there were settled, on earth, angels walking about in peace and quiet, We should certainly have sent them down from the heavens an angel for a messenger."


PICKTHAL:
94) And naught prevented mankind from believing when the guidance came unto them save that they said: Hath Allah sent a mortal as (His) messenger?
95) Say: If there were in the earth angels walking secure, We had sent down for them from heaven an angel as messenger.


SHAKIR:
94) And nothing prevented people from believing when the guidance came to them except that they said: What! has Allah raised up a mortal to be a messenger?
95) Say: Had there been in the earth angels walking about as settlers, We would certainly have sent down to them from the heaven an angel as a messenger.


But because we are MEN, Allah will always send us a MAN...to FOLLOW...not to WORSHIP.

If you wish to REASON with me over this point or that point, I welcome that. But if all you want is to argue and make mockery, then perhaps it is best that I leave you alone.

Salaam.
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