@Happiness, I still struggle till today to understand the American System. Infact when i mentioned computer science I was refering to USA and some other places. We had people doing computer science and mathematics, computer science and business studies, I agree those one are not engineers. But we also had those doing Computer Networking, computer System and software Engineering and those doing communication Engineer. whilst they are still engineers, they are into IT. All these department were under that Engineering sections, and we did all those basic Engineering stuffs like Engineering Applications etc. And our degree title is (Beng). I know you not saying allsoftware Engineers are not Engineers, but I reckon a lot of the older generation in IT may not havea degree or have IT degree as it wasn't available when they were studying or during there time. But these days, a lot of the young software Engineers have degrees and some sort of qualification.

Back to the main subject, there are a lot of black people in enigeering, go to any Uni and find out.