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18-12-04, 07:18 PM
Parris:
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While I can't speak about everyone in the religion I think that Islam is inherently violent.
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Wouldn't it be best to study the history and tenants of other religions before making comparative statments against Islam like calling it a "violent religion"?
Atleast then, because you studied your are qualified to compare it to others and call it "violent" if you still believed that.
But is being violent a good or bad thing?
Would you teach your sons to be peaceful rather than violent if they were confronted with a bully or had to defend themselves?
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I do not think that it incorporates (measured) violence, I think it proposes it. I think it motivates it. I think Islam encourages it. I think Islam takes the hopeless ness of people and turns it into hate.
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I can't debate or argue with a man over what he THINKS...you're entitled to your own thoughts.
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While there is "mention" of tolerance in the Qu'ran (check spelling) the actions of Islam (as with some may mention...Christianity) are voilent and it stimulates that violence and strokes the flame of hate.
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It depends on which aspects of Islam you're focusing on.
If you focus on the Warfare History of Islam, then you'll only see war and violence as well as the military genius of Prophet Muhammad and his early followers.
But if you focus on the fact that Islam regulated and elevated the status of women in Islamic socity then it would look like a pre-modern feminist movement.
If you focused on the amount of slaves the Muslims liberated (with the sword) rather than the people they enslaved, then it would look like a pre-modern abolitionist's movement.
Focus on Islam's harsh stance against the drinking of alcohol, then it would look like a pre-modern AA and anti-substance abuse movement.
It depends where you focus on and where you shift your weights.
The violence part comes in when other people attempt to harm or take advantage of Muslims and they are forced to defend themselves; the spin-masters would spin that as violent.
A lot of people are angry because they are having a harder time doing in Muslim nations what they've done to Africans and Native Americans...so they launch a psychological battle against Islam to compliment thier physical assaults.
Parris, let me ask you a question....
Of all the Muslims you've come across in your daily life, how many have harmed you physically, verbally, or were hostile and aggressive in any way?
Burning Spear:
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Islaam has bveen "hijacked" by extremist elements worldwide with little to no condemnation from moderates.
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I believe that the Muslim world (not Islam) has been hijacked, but not by extremists.
They've been hijacked by the remnant powers of the Ottoman Empire in the East, and racist Pakistani propagandists who distribute information in the West.
Because the steel is black...the attitude is exact. - Public Enemy
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