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22-03-05, 04:36 PM
@MissNoyemi. Had to respond to your contribution. I hear ya and would agree but cannot. First the problem is not the youth, they are a symptom of the problem, often by same parents who now want to distance themselves from it. So lets get the fundamental basic right.
My wife had one hell of a bust up on Saturday with her long time friend who was blaming the youth when they went up West End to shop ,and were on a bus and see how some young African-Caribbean girls were going on in public and on mobile phone. From I heard it was one hell of a battle too. She called wifey ignorant which just set it off and she ended getting a good slapping and put in her place.
The sister was blaming the young and my wife said no that is your daughter and her friends righ there and she got her basic attitudes from her mother but just pushed them to the new limit.
So you are giving youth too much power which they do not really have, as youth is a search for power and identity because they basically don't have that much influence on society or the world. We have a blame not responsibility culture so the same people who shape the youth turn on them and that is why they often feel alienated or feel all are against them. Been through it so we know it.
Let me give you another example close to home. Me and my wife's nephew were very tight when he was young. He was always phong me for help with homework or just an excuse to phone. We go sports events and a whole heap of things together with me and my brothers their boys etc. Just one of the crew and extremely bright. Dominate his subjects by miles.
But his mothers values in terms of what she promotes is fundamentally contradictory and to be honest they may be big women now, but they were kids when they had children so their intelligence, knowledge and education of key things is weak. So she will sit there arguing about children do not need fathers to justify her concious choices, and as my wife said selfishly impose it on the child giving him no choice about key things that will deterrmine his life. Treat the father who is a very good man and nobody says anything bad about him, like he is a joke and she has the power to call shots etc. Take the child aroad and tell him nothing until the last minute and demand money.
Obviously during dicussions me and ther are going to clash intellectually and they simply will not be able to get past me or anyone with any depth. Plus they are the most superficial, so they will say black people shouldn't be against their children marrying whites and say it in front of them and pick up all this political correct shit, and the next minute they are running down whites about who do they think they are? So when it was obvious I just had to say a couple of things and I was the topic of discussions for years.
Because our basic values on many things are liike chalk and cheese. But there was no conflict or anything with the majority of the women, as I simply made my point and they can read between the lines. But I noticed when I use to send one of them e-mails or phone her so I could take her son to black events and programesfor boys, where we would take our lot with us, she never got back to me. I simply laughed and said wait there, because she will be one of a thousand I know where Icouldwrite the script already.
You see most black people work every daydestroying black people and our cultural values which is the base of allpower. You can be a billionaire with poor values and still much poorer in every way than one who has half of that and has the correct values. We are not used toany form of criciticism even if it is not directed to us and has to be said, because these women love to sit thererunning down the youth and young males in particular. As Ireminded one it is the grace of god why she has a daughter and not a son and it is daughters like hers who grow up to have them.
Hear the outcome the sameyoungster who I use to take around with us, going on wild and themother does not know what to do. His education has collapsed to the point you would not even recognise this is the same youth whoas soons as I used to meet him use to ask him a question tokeep himup to speed and if he got them right then I could have somethingin store. I would be scared to embarrass him in front of people to ask him such aquestion now. Where are all the boys in our crew or the majority of age in university or safe money that is where they are going. So there is no point arguing with certain people let them stew in the facts in their faces silently. As my wife says when she is depressed or upset about her son and her inability to do anything she simply sits their stone faced. Some people have to learn, it is a shame the price is so costly.
One of my close bredrinswas with us weekend and told me something similar. He knew a sister at university whose son was a baby at the time and grew up to be a very bright and outstanding student. kick arse in everything and a boy he was very excited about his prospects all things being equal. Now my bredrin lives in Africa so does not see the sister that often. So when he bumped into her the other day and being a father or caringperson, the first thing he did was make the mistake and ask about her son. My man said as soon as he asked he could have seen he should not have and wished he could have taken the wordsback. My boy is a full blown gangster and no joking either. Putting that mind to good use ****ing other people, the majority of whom are his own.
All the above relates to conversations which took place in my home between Saturday and Sunday evening. So from that snap shot alone, I can see we are looking in the wrong place and the youth are responding to the options and risks or alternatives which have been given to them.
Do I believe we can have the type of organisations like the Black Panthers here? Yep no doubt about that. People are people and what they have done, they can do again and again. That is the secret of success once you have done something you can take those same principles apply and adapt them to new problems and situations. So what is before us is a challenge. We are operating in a bad set of circumstances which we allow to get bigger and more complex everyday, until it threatens to over power us and options decrease even worse. There is a fundamental difference between critics or problem staters and problem solvers. Completely different type of animals
I personally believe we need better than the Panthers by a long strectch, as we are living in here and now and not the 1970's US. Same way we need music that reflects our Caribbean, African and British flavour we need ideology and politics that does the same.
Iknow Icould get a dozen brothers and over 2 years make a massive impact on young brothers n my area no question about it. Not even hard work to be honest, more fun. But the reality is the numbers who can do that are small, those with the potential are much bigger in number. But this is where reality bites. For me for example to do that I would have to stop work and abandon many very serious responsiblities involving plenty other people which I would not do asmy word as a man is involved. Unless somone declared war on this country and threaten to kill ourpeople.
What black people like Tyson or others with mega silly money is going to pay me and my a dozen brothers simply to put down tools and give up our work to do that?. So our young men and women do not have that institutional machinary like say Jews who have it from the womb to the tomb if they choose. I am honoured to have been a member of an important organisation and an important time, where they went out looking for young talent and had scouts and people with good eyes and head looking for them. If you were very good and valuable they put you on the pay rolle and would find money one way or another and if they told you that next year or so they will be in a position to pay you so start getting yourself ready, they kep their word.
So we had the capacity to have large numbers of talented black people who can work together effectively all in one place or several places dotted around an area or country. Problem solvers solving problems on a daily basis.
So if you had skills in intellectual matters, debating, influencing. They had a place for you. If you were a practical brother again they had plenty projects for people just like you to work learn under older down to eath but knowelde brothers in a black cultural environment, where you were at home. If you like vehciles and oil and grime we could hook you up. If you were a leader or had that potential as a youngter they would hone in on it in a flash and after training etc, you could find yourself across the world moving with big and powreful movers and shakers of the black world. If you liked foreign affairs you were spoiled for choices, every divison is fighting for you from our Science and Techical people, our trade and business people and security Division ina range of roles eg analysts, to area specialists. If you are a warrior in the traditional sense as we were all solidiers, we have plenty work for you.
So without question the youth of today are more disadvantaged than ever. They have been let down and betrayed by those who came before them in many cases not all or even the majority, but enough. Decisons taken by adults in power whether it is radical poltics or the decison of a man or woman where sex and reproduction is concerned can smite an entire nations twenty years later. One of our brothers talking about some of our leaders who we admired and respected as young brothers said they will rot in their graves and burn in hell's fire for allowing matters of ego and personal like of power, to bring down one of the most powerful machines we have ever had in this country, to see what is now the outcomes. Today we only have the Nation of Islam and some other small group of nutters it would appear running around the place, with some good people still out there no doubt. Mere ants to a powerful machine. Look how disorganised our students are today compared to my time and organisations like the All African People Revolutionary Party.
But my view is we are we we are and it serves us no tangible benefit blaming the youth or our forebears. All history now. I will repeat something mypeople arebored ofhearing because I have beensaying it so long. The key and only issue is the basic decision to fight or not to fight. Nothing else matters in the world of a poltical solidier.
How big you are, or small you are, how attractive or ugly or what you think you are or not doesn't mean Jack to me or ever has. I only want to know can you fight. Do you want to fight. Howhave you come to that decison and why?Every thing else we can take care of all the how and when. That is technical detail.
Same principle I feel applies here about the Panthers or the future. If the young want to fight, there are ways for them to develop that knowledge and craft. Talk is cheap and perhaps why we run the world where talk is concerned. Let us talk in celebration after we have achievd, and celebrate that fact and big up our heroes of the day or minute. That is my philosphy. We do and then we party and big up. But we must do first and be able to demonstrate that fact.
The game is not done and can only reach that conclusion if we accept the superiority of our enemies and the forces against us and wallow in self pity or self analyis and powerlessness.
Peace.
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