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@Safety. Spot on there. Basic immaturity in leadership which manfiested in the organisation about what a radical organisation looks like or is. These things takes years to work out and to think you can just get the spirit and start typing a manifestoe. Karnega had it spot on. Cultural revolution first or at least starting the process. Old wine in new bottles is still......

@JG. Yes and no. Sturcture is not the issue in my view. Structure is simply structure i,e a way or arranging, functions, communication, divsision of responsiblities,accountabilities or simply a way of organising organisational resources. Take your choice of any number of basic definitions.

Not sure I think the BPP problem was about structure, as a matter of fact they used a military command structure so it definitely not that. Have you see the big arse titltes them guys had and announcing it for the world? Certain stuff you keep in house eg he is a volunteer. Full stop.

You can structure things how you like, it is is what is in people's minds, and hearts and the ethos and what they are being taught and what is being reinforced. So you can have great structures on paper which mean little in reality.

The power of the military like any established institutions is the power of its ethos. You know why you are there and what is expected and it is reinforced hard and uniformly in theory. Same as a hundred other institutions eg the legal system, medical profession, particular types of churches etc.

I don't think secrecy is as important as you think and definetly in the Panthers case when they simply had too many of the wrong type of people, due to their lack of understanding of what this thing is about and who the enemy is and how they work.

Again you can be as secretive as you want to the outside world, if half of your members or people in certain positions, should never be there in the first place, and are simply walking time bombs or security risks with blue flashing lights on with bells ringing as well. If you recruit right. 89 percent of your security is taken care of as most of these agenices are not that sharp. We are justt too damn fool. There is the X factor which is just life and shit happens and people get lucky. But as Safetybitz said in a very nice way. We just give the game away and our lives for fun. Man you got to earn my life.

There was a joke that use to do the concious circles, that there were so many black cops and informers and agents of all kiinds in the Panthers they spent most of their time showing each other their badges. Simply pathetic. The guns stuff was just stupid. As you draw the enemy in a frenzy. The Panthers could even in certain sitautions have all legitimate and legal reasons to draw a piece. But regardless of the law prancing around with guns. Man just damn foolish.

Posturing anddressing up and prancing around is too much a part of our politics and immaturity and culture and has absolutely nothing to do with serious hard core revolutionary politics. The Russian revolutionaries wereas hard core as they came. You never find any of them prancing around like arseholes dressed up drawing attention to themselves completely uncessarily. Do you think if you are dealing with serous shit fighting a serious enemy with a serious and mature mind, you indulge in this childsplay.

If we send a brother to learn or do or carry out something very delicate or critical. He is as plain as they come, almost bloody invisible not carrying a sign saying here I am. Our job is to make the enemy work and use every resource and penny in their over time budget to find out **** all. Drain every cent and send them back to their political masters to beg more with nothing to show.

That is the first rule of a solidier. Even if you don't know shit make them believe you know a whole heap just to drain every drop of petrol in the tank. Allowing brothers to do their duty in silence. That is what we were drilled in. Give nothing away cheaply tie their arses up send them all over the place looking for air.

Too much superman shit. Yesterday I was reading on a site and saw pictures of some brothers I know in the Pan African community look like a fancy dress show or as if they were going to some theme dance or party or some shit like that.

Man in army fatigues, berret and dark glasses in some Public Enemy kinda pose. Other dress up like they were Jomo bloody Kenyatta or some big Yoruba Oba of old and you know they aint Nigerian right?

Pure joke business.

Same thing with secrecy. Too many brothers I meet who no disrespect have no serious battle experience act like they are Tony bloody Sappraono and the man got bugs every where. Like they have time following fools simply beating up gumbs and don't have more pressing things to do called Islamic terrorst ,who ain't talk but work like ants over years dilligently and with discipline and purpose carrying out their specific objectives of deeping in deep and waiting for orders.

The majority of things our people need has no security value whatsoever and to shroud them in secrecy only hurts our people. You can't run schools in secret or homework clubs neither should you or programmes for boys or young men or girls. This is the communties business. Opening up new shops to serve our people is not a secret other than when we carry out our research and feasibility study and that kind of thing.

Stuff which is really secret only involves a small handfull of people, including some leaders and needs no special secret organisation. Unless the head of Security decides to set up what we call an shadow organisation or invisible organisation and then most will be none the wiser as they will not be in the know. And they spend most of their time doing boring stuff like carefully collecting and analysing data.

So for me basedwe need to play down the action man side of our struggle because most who play it up couldn't cut it or would not be suitable anyway. I know young men like it, but the reality is schools,education, raising money, setting stuff up and basic community building, looking after community children and being important in their lives, as influences and leaders etc whichis acatually more important and where most of them are going to end up. Moreover, the struggle is not about young men but all men and that means developing an image and ethos that speaks to that.

Notthe Ninja man end of the business. This was a vital Panther mistake which they learned to regret.

The perception and mythology of what people think this is about and what the reality is needs to be closer, especially for some brothers.

FB