"I really wanted you to answer my questions before I continued. Can you answer my questions about Adam pls. I keep telling you about you dodgy interpretation will you listen when I show you?" (KANOBI)

...Read again...

""But it is evident we are destined to sin just from experience also the bible tells us this. Who said anything about our fathers? When God tested Adam he tested mankind. Can you see why I say this? Could any man have choosen different from Adam? Was any man created better than Adam? If God had repeated the experimnet would he have had a different result?"" (KANOBI)


...No, man is not DESTINED to sin. Man has the freewill to choose to sin or not to sin. The same as Adam had the freewill to choose to sin or not to sin. Man is the same as Adam, no better and no worse. However, Adams choices were his OWN. Just as OUR choices are OUR own. Remember it is YOUR bible that says:

"The son (the progeny of Adam) shall NOT bear the iniquity of the father (Adam)." Ezekiel 18:20

"every man shall receive his OWN reward according to his OWN labour."I Corinthians 3:8

Furthermore, where did you get it from that everybody sins, surely not in the bible. Have you forgotten that:

"...There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was PERFECT and UPRIGHT, and one that feared God, and ESCHEWED evil.Job 1:1-22 (King James Version)"

...Regarding abrogation...

2:106. None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?

16:101. When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.

13:39. Allah doth blot out or confirm what He pleaseth: with Him is the Mother of the Book.

The reason i refer to these verses is to explain what is meant by abrogation. Some believe that verses of the Quran were replaced by later verses. In actual fact, some verses
were substituted by later verses as they were more relavant to a later period. This in no way implies that the initial verses were a mistake or corrected. The Qur’an was revealed over a period of 22½ years. Many reforms that were brought about in the society were gradual. This was to facilitate the adoption of new laws by the people. An abrupt change in society always leads to rebellion and anarchy.

Two different interpretations

The Glorious Qur’an says in the following verse:

"None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?"
(Al-Qur’an 2:106)

A reference to this is also made in chapter 16 verse 101 of Surah Nahl. The Arabic word mentioned is ayat which means ‘signs’ or ‘verses’ and which can also mean ‘revelations’. This verse of the Qur’an can be interpreted in two different ways:

a. The revelations that are abrogated are those revelations that were revealed before the Qur’an, for example the Torah, the Zaboor and the Injeel.

Here Allah (swt) says that He does not cause the previous revelations to be forgotten but He substitutes them with something better or similar, indicating that the Torah, the Zaboor and the Injeel were substituted by the Qur’an.

b. If we consider that the Arabic word ayat in the above verse refers to the verses of the Qur’an, and not previous revelations, then it indicates that none of the verses of the Qur’an are abrogated by Allah but substituted with something better or similar. This means that certain verses of the Qur’an, that were revealed earlier were substituted by verses that were revealed later. I agree with both the interpretations.

Many Muslims and non-Muslims misunderstand the second interpretation to mean that some of the earlier verses of the Qur’an were abrogated and no longer hold true for us today, as they have been replaced by the later verses of the Qur’an or the abrogating verses. This group of people even wrongly believe that these verses contradict each other.

The Qur'an is complete.

The Qur'an is completed and what should be in it is in it, and what should not have been in it is not in it. Upon completion, the Qur'an was compiled and stored as it was meant to be, and has remained that was ever since.

5:3 This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful

57:77-80. That this is indeed a qur'an Most Honourable,
In Book well-guarded, Which none shall touch but those who are clean: A Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.

85:21-22. Nay, this is a Glorious Qur'an,
(Inscribed) in a Tablet Preserved!

15:9. We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).

http://www.irf.net/irf/faqonislam/index.htm

my answer to your satanic verses is on the thread and plain to see http://www.blackchat.co.uk/theblackf...m26/10272.html

However, i must say that a clearly see why Ahmaad calls you KaNOTbi!