Great summary brutha Baron. I think that in the West it would be a 'mental death' or just simply sad for any brutha or sista to take a nihilistic or teleological approach. I couldn't imagine doing that. Especially as I know many black parents tell their children to trust in God and grow up with 'God' in their house. You know what they say, you have to consider where these concepts come from, not everyone can apply them to their lives. They say anything that is not from God is from the Devil....these things like ouiji boards, seances, black magic... they are avoided and not acknowledged by many because they have too much respect for their relationship with God. I feel anyone not taking this nihilistic appproach would be doing exactly the same thing. ..... ....... . ......... ....... ..... ....... ..... ....... ....... ..... ...... ..... ....... ....... ...... ...... ........... ........ ....... .......... ..... ....... .Because nihilism is just like all these others things , IMO, to confuse you, and an approach, but not necessarily the truth. When I was a teenager, I used to buy all those girly magazines and Sistas style. Come haloween threre would be 'free ouiji boards/rune stones/horoscope books' and seance stories 'with every issue'... at first I read about it... but had too much religion instilled in me to believe it... it was too creepy, especially when the only thing you are familiar with of this kind is prayer. I read about it... I was curious...but then I thought "Calisto, you know this is rubbish... why waste you time...you have a religion. This is not good". There are many things in the West which are no good and bad influences, and fill your mind with rubbish. I think for any black to adopt nihilism, it's bad... and they should be careful of what they adopt or what is fed into their heads. Just because little 'Patrick or Jaimie' adopts it doesn't mean we should... blacks have too mant things to put in perspective to 'follow' nonsense and have defeatist attitudes. I'll never give up, what's the point..."The only way from here is down..." (if you get what I am saying).