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Gmahogany · (#51 (**permalink**))

BlackBrainChild wrote:

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Gmahogany wrote:

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I've never seen Safety like this. Ya'll better back up off him....

Anyway, Safety is right. White women were/are envious of Black women, to a large degree. I mentioned something like this in athread a while back. White men not only had sexual interest in Black female slaves, but certain white men spent, MOST of their time in the slave quarters with their Black mistress. Not only that, it wasn't uncommon for Black women to have children by these white men. So not only did the white wife have to accept the fact that her husband desired a Black woman sexually, spent much of his time with her, (and away from his wife), but had to look at the half black offspring resulting from her husband's liasons, who were running around the plantation....sometimes uncannily resembling her OWN all white offspring with her husband, with everybody on the plantation knowing and commentingon the fact that this or that little mulatto child sure did resemble Massa......

Black female slaves often sought out to be house slaves, because it was easier than being a field slave, but they also received more ill treatment from the white wife, by working in the house, who was OFTEN jealous and felt threatened by them. As Safety said, this is borne out in both slave narratives and court documents, where white women took actions against their husbands over a Black mistress. They felt this way, even in situations where their husband was totally forcing himself on the Black woman,ANDin the situations where there was some amount of consent,(as much consent as a slave could give to the person who owned them).

If white women were made to feel insecure by Black women who often had no say in having sexual relations with their husbands, I know damn well they feel some sense of insecurity these days. Their husbands did a good job of placating them with the whole "I put u on a pedestal, you're too good for my sexual desires and passions, so I'd rather act them out on her because she's more base in nature", but many of them tired of that spiel, and saw through it.

For the person who mentioned only a few white people owning slaves, first of all, as Safety said, that's not true. Secondly, white men didn't have to own slaves to have full sexual access to Black women. White overseers, white male relatives and friends, employees, all were offered access and even if they did it without permission of the slaveowner, nothing usually happened to them. Not to mention the white men who by themselves or in groups,who would randomly target a Black female. This kind of sh*t happened way AFTER slavery, particularly in the South. As a matter of fact, white men in the South were EXPECTED to gain their sexual experience/sow their wild oats by having sex with Black women, and that's POSTDATES slavery, well into the 20th century. It's how u ended up with the Strom Thurmond type situations.

White women may or may not see Black women as being more attractive than they are, but they definitely fear our sexual power/sensual power. It is precisely because they are the beauty ideal that this would be so. They were/are firmly plantedat the top of the female beauty hierarchy, yet their men had/have an enduring sexual and sometimes more than sexual interest in another group of women...not just ANY women, but the women who are as different from them in look and behavior as is possible, andsupposedly at rock bottom of the same beauty hiearchy. That's enough to shake any b**ch's confidence...I don't care how much they proclaim otherwise,lol.

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Yeah all what you said is true, but are you actually saying that the slave masters DESIRED their slaves? I see it more as they RAPED them just because they could get away with it. There was no love or interest in the slave woman, so why praise this?

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I'm saying that in some instances, white slave owners and a particular Black female slave had "relationships" that lasted for years, often ending up in those females and their children being freed, and being left land and or money by that white slave owner. If you check out a lot of the early Black American bourgeoise class, many of them are of obvious mixed blood. Many of them have possessed wealth and access to education going

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back to the 1800's, and it's usually because of a situation like the one I mentioned. It's no accident that the Blacks in America who made up the wealthiest and most educated class of Blacks, especially back at the beginning of the 20th century, are almost exclusively of heavily mixed blood. In some instances, the slave owners promised that to the Black women they were dealing with and didn't follow through, but in many instances, they did follow through. Was that because they actually had feelings for them, or just because they felt some sense of guilt and responsibility,(especially to their half black offspring)? I don't know, but I do know that it happened, a lot.

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Beyond that, I'm saying that it doesn't matter whether they "desired" Black women or not, their wives were left alone in their beds at night while their husbands were in another woman's bed in the slave quarters, night after night. As a woman in that situation, does it really matter WHY your husband is in another woman's bed? You're going to respond as a human being, not with some spiel that's he's telling you about how you're really superior to her, and he's just doing this to spare you of his male animal passions.

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I don't think anyone is praising this. I think it's being offered as a backstory to why what a lot of us as Black women think we sense from many white women, is what what we think it is, and why even now what went on then continues to reverberate.