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02-09-06, 10:46 PM
Shemsi en Tehuti wrote:
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Let's make somecrude realizationsabout what "God" is.
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After reading through this thread, it seems to me that these "realizations" are actually "speculations"...and there is a difference.
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God is supposed to be all-powerful, all-knowing, and theepitome of righteousness. How can an entity deemed as "God" bless the most crooked people to ever live, yet allow the most righteous to suffer?There are countless real-world examples present and throughout history.
This statement is based on an assumption...an assumption that a "personal" God must necessarily be limited in expression to those traditions and customs accepted by the majority. It is entirely possible that a "personal" God could in fact be absolutely just in allowing or causing whatever will further the Overall Plan of such a Being. It is entirely possible that there is a Truer concept of Justice than that which many of us, as "individuals" have. It is not that the guilty get off free, and the righteous suffer. The truth is that all suffer, and all benefit, according to the quality of their knowledge and application. If we argue that the "wicked" benefit more, and the "righteous" suffer more, then we must consider the question..."why?". If this is by the Permissive will of the Almighty, what is the purpose? Could it be that we are being given an opportunity to Learn about ourselves and our own potential for Good and Evil?
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Why would God punish innocent Americans with 9/11 (as some have said), yet turn a blind eye to other crookedness in the world. Surely God would be able to punish all inequities, butGod does not. If we even try to rationalize why God would pick and choose these things, we only make ourselves out to sound extremely stupid...quite frankly because it is incredibly stupid for a God to do that.
Did God punish those "innocent" Americans? Or is Man "punishing" himself with his own evil? Since it is true that the Universe is constructed on very definite laws which maintain Balance and Equillibrium throughout, how do we know that what happened was not just an inevitable balancing out of wrongs committed by "both sides"? And why would God allow such a thing? To show us something about ourselves, possibly?
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Therefore, we must remove one of the properties for "God", whereeither God isn't all-powerful, isn't all-knowing, or isn't the epitome of righteousness. You can pick one, but I don't think God would be God if he wasn't all-powerful or all-knowing...which means God can simply not be righteous. This notion seems a bit wierd, and is the idea of God that the Mesopotamianscame up with. I have to say that an unrighteous God only confers to many other questions, which suggests this simply cannot be the case either.
This is not the best conclusion, in my opinion, because it does not take into consideration the possibility that our present understanding is yet insufficient to properly answer such a question. Perhaps "God" has a Purpose for Causing/Allowing such things that is yet above our present understanding. Sure, we can speculate...or we can keep searching for the answer until we find it. Perhaps God is allowing Us to follow in the Path of His Own Growth into Mastery...by allowing and managing Trial and Error with "Cause and Effect".
So what are we left with other than that God must be a non-personal all-powerful & all-knowing being? This is where I am at with the question of the thread.
Does It Make Sense For A Personal God to Exist? Please give your justifications for which ever is your conclusion...
I think it makes sense...buy hey...what do I know...I'm just a religious fanatic...lol.
RM
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