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04-03-07, 07:03 AM
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Reparations still isnt doable because insome cases blacks are decendents of thier slaveowners. What about white immigrants who arrived after the slave era, would they pay? Itspossible 1 in every 5 AA's ancestors were white. What about whites withno visible African featuresbut substainal african ancestry? Enough time has past to have literally changed a "white" person "Black". Hell, your people could have possibly could have owned my people.It all becomes a slippery slope.
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How would being descendants of our slaveowners, negate a reparations claim? Just because a white man forced/coerced a female slave to have sex doesn't necessarily mean that the descendants were welcomed into the fam and received monetary benefit from that occurence, or that the "black descendants and the white "relatives" ever became one happy cohesive family unit, equally sharing in the profits of the "black desendants" labor.
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Why would white immigrants who came here after slavery be included when there would obviously be no paper trail connecting them to slavery? Nobody is talking about targeting random crackers. Furthermore, reparations claims would not only have to made towards individual families,(though in cases like Sharpton's where it can be documented and proven, why the hell not?). There are companies that are still profitable and in business that BENEFITTED and built their wealth/portfolio on slavery, by issuing insurance policies to slave owners, etc. If slave descendant can connect the dots between their antecedent who was deemed "property" and the insurance company that issued a policy on that "property", causing damage and profiting off of that damage/injury, why would that not be a legitimate claim?
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If the "whites with no visible African features", have the ability to document who owned them, like Sharpton can, and they don't mind ADMITTING their "substantial African ancestry", more power to em.
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This wouldn't have to be something that all AA's did. Those who feel it's all water under the bridge, and don't feel particularly 'injured" by what went down, or have murkier or less clear cut claims/documentationwould be free to not file/particpate in lawsuits.
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On a personal note I find this whole story suspect. Why is Sharpton so obviously overracting?Him calling a press conference about the whole thing was more bizzare than the connection itself.Theres just nothing new here. Africans were enslaved, we know the history. He shouldnt be surprised ifhesassociatedwith a popular American figuresince primarily white wealthy familesowned slaves. And
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since when did geneolgy become such a hot topic in this country? Why now?
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He called a press conference on it, because it was being discussed ANYWAY. Ancestry.com was using the story to get new subscribers. It's was on the front page of their site, last I checked. I don't get why his response is suspect to anyone. How would you respond? How would any of us respond? Are u sure you would resond how you THINK you would? I think that's a very individual thing. There is certainly no set protocol for how to respond to finding out WHICH specific crackers OWNED your family,lol. Particularly one that includes a well knownperson who spent most of his life doing dirt in reference to Black folks, in general, whom you've had the DISPLEASURE of meeting at one time, and didn't like.
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Sharpton didn't even initate the thing. A black newspaper in NY asked him if he would particpate in having his DNA traced for Black History month, like Oprah, Whoopi, and others have. He said yes. While Ancestry.com's genealogists were tracing leads on his paternal great grandfather, they came across court records,documenting the ownership.
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Genealogy has become a hot topic because of all of the strides that have been made in mitachondrial DNA, etc. The average person now has the wherewithal to easily and fairly inexpensively, document ,specify , and prove some ish, that we formerly had to speculate about/wonder about.
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....Intriging......Intriging indeed.
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