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24-05-07, 01:10 AM
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Anybody looking into an African communites philosophy forum will be presented with bullsh*t,mofos, N****r, whiney little b**ch.... they might say.....Doh! looks like we don't have to worry about them for a long time.
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See, that's your problem. You're too worried about what OTHER people,read;white people are thinking, in reference to what African people say or, or how we say it, on an African forum. What white people or any other people think about how I choose to express myself on an AFrican forum, does notconcern me(check some of the N-word threads on here, I don't TOO much care what other BLACK folks think about how I express myself,so you're barking up the wrong tree). Secondly, how GMahogany chooses to express herself is not reflective of anyone else's personal style, except Gmahogany. So any non Black person who would come in and make conclusions about the African collective, based on how one poster chooses to express herself, PROBABLY, already has Black people pegged a certain way, ANYWAY,which meanswhat they do or don't think about Black folks and how we speak among ourselves, figures into my list of concerns LESS thanwhat theaverage non Black person, does or doesn't think about such matters, and that would be a big ol Zilch/Zero....
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Secondly, what is MORE likely to give OTHERs,further smug assurance about Black folks(if that type of thing is something that keeps you awake at night), is when they come in here and see that some of us are still talking that turn the other cheek, love your enemy bullshit(eventhough everything they've attained and are able to maintain came from NOT subcribing to any of that foolishness,lol.
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Beyond that, I can be as civilized,genteel, and philisophical as the next person in tone and content, when I WANT to be. WHen I"m not, it's usually because the person I'm addressing, has INSPIRED me to adopt a certain tone with them, and ingratiating myself to them or respecting their sensibilities is not high on my priority list.
Would you like some fried chicken with that my stereotypical friend?
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Once again, because I choose to express myself a certain way,(in YOUR mind),some Black stereotype is being upheld in the minds of the others;read white folks, who may be watching/reading....Are you even capable of having a conversation without keeping a running mental list of what Crackers may be thinking about everything you and or the other Black person you are interacting with may be saying? I find it very telling that this type of thing seems to preoccupy you. Beyond that, I assure you that there is not one word on the list you gave, that Mr. Charlie and Ms. Anne have not heard,and probably USED,lol.
You've excelled yourself, how many times have I mentioned for you to re read the 1st post? how many times have I said you are arguing with what you think ie: yourself? You've missed the angle I was coming from and served yourself, many times, I let you carry on down the wrong track, if we were honest you didn't give me any chance did you?
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And again, I've READ your 1st post. I don't know why you keep thinking that what you wrote was so deep and profound, or NEW, that it couldnt' be deciphered. I've told you several times WHICH parts of your post I disagreed with. That is ALL I have addressed. Honestly, I haven't even gotten as deep into that as I can. You and others like you, are fond of throwing around terms like "love", "enemy", "friend". To REALLY get into a discussion like that, we would need some operational definitions. Everyone doesn't have the same thing in mind, when throwing those words around, I find. I'm can't be bothered really, because A. I don't think you can turn a REAL enemy into a friend(at least in my conception of enemies and friends), and B. I don't desire to do so.
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You talked about lessons you learned at 5, well I learned a few, too. One of them is that you will NEVER get everybody to like you(if they do, something's wrong), much less be your friend,(because people's reasons for not liking you, often have nothing to do with you-that's a concept that it's very difficult for egotistical people to grasp,since folks wanna bring up ego..), which of course means making them "like you", is an impossibility,even if it is your slavish/low self esteem having,desire; IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU,oftimes.
Here's another example, if I say:
It's embrassing to me how rough you are then, the missing link has been found.
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I'm not rough at all, I'm quite a woman, and a lady; ask around this Board, I just don't suffer fools gladly. You ought to be embarrassed about how much you're making yourself look like a whiny little b**ch. "Gmahogany, you don't know how to talk to people, ooooo, Gmahogany you're being too rough?",LOL. If all it takes to get you topiss and moanlike this, is a little passionately debated, message board discussion, wow! I'd hate to see you ina REAL conflict.
Ahhh armchair banditary, where the weak pretends to be strong by hiding behind a annonymous pseudonym pointless bit of nonsense. You still didn't follow what was being said to you, it flew right over your head, this made me laugh.  ? I was saying how rough you are, you're no diamond, you are the missing link in the evolutionary chain Ms Gmahogorilla your royal roughness!!! That's why I find you amusing, I told you before, you're my clown.
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Again, you think you're deeper than you are. I understood you to be saying that I was rough, I also understood you to be connecting that comment to your suprise that I was a woman(which is why you made that comment directly after saying that you were suprised to find out I was a woman). You didn't SPECIFICALLY say that I was being too rough,(a little hyperbole on my part), but you DID say that I didn't know how to talk to people in an earlier post. I was commenting on your genenral Bitching and moaning about my tone/timbre/use of profanity,non willingness to adopt/embrace a victim/doormat philosophy,(and connecting that to me being a woman), etc.all which seem to have offended your delicate sensibilities,and MOST sinful of all, horror of horrors,possibly having the effect....giving....white folks.....the wrong idea......about.......US.....
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BTW,I am quite capable of batting my eyelashes, and protecting the male ego(though I don't/won't as a general rule), when I'm in the mood to, or have a reason to,even if they arecompletely and utterly talking out of their ass, I"m capable of being tactful in disagreement with males and females,if I like and respect the male or femalethat I'm interacting with. If not, well.............
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Secondly, there has been no effort on my part to convince you or anyone else that I am strong,(I just endeavor to never willingly be a doormat/punching bag for anyone, for any reason and encourage others to do the same). I was shocked and continue to be shocked thatwhat I was saying and how I said it seemed to disturb you/offend your sensibilities so much.(some of it i believe is bullshit though, cause it hasn't stopped you from continuing to make little bitchified snide comments/insultseven in THIS very post). Funny to me how people thinkas long as they don'tuse profanity, they aren't being insulting or confrontational, or offensive, even when they're making sarcastic comments/insults all the while. Very passive aggressive, and cowardly,imo, butI digress.....YOU'VE been saying that I was "rough, using force",etc.in this thread,I've been DENYING those things:I've been saying things like "i'm very peaceful and loving"etc,,lol, so for you to then turn around and accuse me of false bravado and chest thumping of some kind, is really funny, and typical of how you seem to like to twist shitaround/grasp atstraws,to save your shipwreck of an argument.....
Your ego owned you, there's a thread in this forum precisely about this matter.
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Like I said before, whatver you gotta tell yourself, sweetheart. Your stance/position has been effectively deconstructed/rejected/dismissed by SEVERAL people in this thread. To the extent that my posts contributed to that GROUP EFFORT,lol, I still wouldn't seriously take credit for it. THe unsoundness of much of what you've said, is SELF EVIDENT, and again, for the umpteenth time, your argument is not NEW, so the responses/counter arguments are not New either, just expressed in a unique,very expressive way,maybe.....
Beyond that, you've continued to try to feign being misunderstood/misinterpreted throughout the thread,(which means several people were understanding you to be saying just what I understand you to be saying). That tells me either you are NOT being misinterpreted, the theory you're forwarding doesn't hold water and you're shifting positions/ playing a semantics game, OR you are doing an ATROCIOUS job of CONVEYING your glorious theory. I'm inclined to believe the former, rather than the latter, but that's just me.
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