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Default 25-06-07, 12:45 AM

Jay - I’m having a hard time trying to figure out if you're arguing religion, greed, politics or history - you kind of have everything mixed in.

On the History front: Actually the place that Abraham came from was VERY advanced, it’s real name was Sumer, later known as Babylonia – experts disagree as to which was man’s first civilization – Sumer or Egypt.

Abraham’s presence there was as a result of (Mar.tu/Amorite/Habiru/Hebrew) immigration as a result of one of their Kings (Hammurabi), having taken control of the Empire. After the fall of Hammurabi’s dynasty, it’s reasonable to assume that some of the Amorites might have felt unwelcome. It’s interesting to note that Abraham first went back home to Amorite territory (Harran), before moving on to Egypt.

Your point on Akhenaten being the world’s first monotheist is very perceptive, I happen to agree with it, it is well known that Hebrews accepted Egyptian religion, it is not a stretch to believe that they would adapt an Egyptian concept. There is also a train of thought that says: In Hebrew myth, the god that promised them the land of Israel, was in fact the Pharaoh Ahmose I, as part of the deal that he brokered with them to get them to give up their fortress “Avarice” and leave Egypt. (Egyptian Kings were deified and considered Gods). Since Egypt ruled those lands, it was within his power to give land to the Hyksos/Hebrews.


But; I would suggest caution on your judgment of the Hebrew religion: Because you are judging it by it’s off-shoots: namely Christianity, and the religion of the Khazars (please don’t call it Judaism), and Islam. Each of these original Black religious concepts was re-written by White people i.e. The Romans re-wrote Christianity, The Turkish Khazars (you know them as Jews – White Hebrews, what a concept!), re-wrote the Hebrew religion, The Ottoman Turks re-wrote Islam. Funny how Turks keep showing up.

At this point in time: It is impossible to judge the true merits of Hebrew religious thought, because there is no documentation. Whatever they had written down was destroyed by the Romans, so as not to conflict with what they - the Romans - were writing (or re-writing). It’s assumed that’s why the Dead Sea Scrolls were so well hidden – the Romans were burning all Hebrew writings. Consequently that’s why there are no Hebrew writings existent today – except the Dead Sea Scrolls. (The Hebrew’s were very literate, so there was a LOT of burning going on!).

Hopefully one day - don’t laugh - Black people will demand return of their intellectual property (the Scrolls), and then we’ll know if there really was anything of value in Hebrew religious thought. (Though they say that the Scrolls are mostly of a non-religious nature). Of course those of us with half a brain, already know what liars White people are about this kind of stuff: So perhaps that’s just another White lie – pardon the pun.

Of all the worlds’ great religions, only one – Hinduism - has an element of original White religious thought. One of the tenets of Hinduism – the Caste system – was designed to codify segregation of (pure) Blacks. To the credit of India’s Blacks, they objected, and created new religions, i.e. Buddhism, Jainism etc. Judging by the social-religious condition of India, maybe Hinduism wasn’t such a great idea.

I have always looked down my nose at indigenous Americans (Indians), because they are the worlds most devout followers of the religion of their conquers and destroyers - Christianity. Then I look around at Black people, they are also devout followers of their destroyers religion – Turkish Islam and Roman Christianity – funny how that works.
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