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Originally Posted by defyfear

I would probably start by throwing a dumbell at the mirror. I see to many muscle bound weight trainers having a strong fixation of full body mirrors.

This sounds strange but I see supplements and a box of cereal as the same in terms of effect

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Vitamins and minerals: zinc and iron (mineral nutrients), vitamin C (sodium ascorbate), a B vitamin ( niacinamide), vitamin B6 (pyridoxine hydrochloride), vitamin B2 (riboflavin), B1 (tiamin mononitrate), vitamin A (palmitate), a B vitamin (folic acid), vitamin B12, vitamin D. Contains almond and wheat ingredients.

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Vitamin A, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Vitamin E, Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Folic Acid, Vitamin B12, Biotin, Pantothenic Acid, Calcium Citrate, Carbonate Iron, Dicalcium Phosphate, Iodine, Magnesium, Zinc, Selenium, Copper, Manganese, Chromium, Potassium, Amino Acid Blend: Lysine, Methionine, Leucine, Valine, Threonine, Glutamic Acid, Arginine, Phenylalanine, Carnitine Performance Blend: Sarsaparilla, Siberian Ginseng, Oriental Ginseng, Protogen A, Inosine, Pyridoxine, Alpha-Ketoglutarate, Coenzyme A, Coenzyme B12, Phosphatidylcholine, Para Amino Benzoic Acid, Argentine Liver, Shark Cartilage, Colostrum, Bioflavanoids, Linoleic Acid, Oleic Acid, Digestive Enzymes: Betaine, Choline Complex, Pepsin, Papain, Ox Bile, Pancreatine, Mycozyme

They both are used to increase mass. Most of the ingredients in terms of vitamins is the same. Just eating a box of cereal by itself should match the power of any supplement.

Just an observation.

Good point!

You don't need any supplements just eat right and stay way from fad diets and routines. I have been certified as a personal trainer several times and know that most modern training programs are designed to sell supplements. I for one use a combination of body weight exercise and dumbbell exercises and can go outside right now and deadlift 500lbs. i am lean, can run a mile in 7.5 minutes and weigh 285lbs. Did I mention I don't use supplements not even vitamins. If your goals are to add muscle, lose fat and improve performance I recommend a more reasonable program than body for life.