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12-12-07, 09:08 PM
This is a continuation of the post above:
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John 8
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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Anyhow, let us not be too hard on John (May Allah be pleased with him)
Stop! Now, we have problems. Big problems. This here guy Rome was raised by dogs. Any fool ought to know that this is a problem. Do we receive GOD's Mercy from the milk of Dogs? Well, if that's your thing, that's your thing.
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5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
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6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
Romans 9
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
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Brother Rev. Albert Cleage clearly shows us that this part of The Bible is not properly considered to be a part of The Gospel of Jesus. All of a sudden!... Just stop and think a little bit. So far, we have covered maybe 90-95% of The Bible. So far, we have always been in Africa, considering that Palestine is a part of Africa. Now, all of a sudden we find ourselves in Europe, Rome, among white people. Do you not hear alram bells going off? Something is up, good people. Beklieve me: This little 5% of The Bible is the only part of all known Holy Scripture that is clearly not associated with Africa in any way. Could this possibly be another white man trick? Well, you decide.
Brother Cleage does not get too hard on the Romans, et al. But, he does clearly point out that at best, this is secondary information: hearsay. These Romans and things were not eyewtnesses to The Gospels. That much is absolutely clear. They are a secondary source of infromation as compared to Mathew, Mark and Luke who were eyewitnesses. In fact Brother Albert claims that this part of The Bible was wruitten hundreds of years after Jesus (Peace and Blessings be upon him) died. So at best, we need to be very, very careful about believing in secondary sources of information.
2 Thessalonians 2
8 And then shall that Wicked One be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Thank you for not mentioning those other questionable books in The Bible. You have already done enough damage. What I said about The Epistle of Paul to the Romans also applies to the Epistle of Paul to the Thessalonians, except I know of no links between the Thessalonians and dogs. All of this falls into what Brother Albert called The Pauline Gospels. This is very, very important. I will not knock The Paulin Gospels, as such. I just want to make it very clear that they do not fall inot the same category as The Gospels of Jesus (Peace and Blessings be upon him). Jesus is clearly a Prophet of GOD. (Paece and Blessings be upon all of the Prophets). But, the gentleman Paul is not. I do not care how many lies are told to the contrary, there is absolutely nothing in The Bible indicating that Paul was a prophet, as far as I can see. If there is, show me.
Paul claimed that he had an experience that revealed Jesus (Peace and Blessings be upon him). But, as far as I know, not even Paul claimed that Jesus was GOD. So, to see Jesus (Peace and Blessings be upon) on the Road to Damascus does not make Paul a prophet. But, tricksters will be tricksters. The tricksters gloss over this fact by calling Paul an apostle. Really? This is getting to be too long. So, let me once agian refer you to the works of Rev. Cleage. I do not want to write a whole book here.
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2 Peter 2
12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
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Revelation 9
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
Revelation 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Revelation 13
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Revelation 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Revelation 19
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
God only wants those who want HIM...the rest, according to the Bible, will be KILLED!
RM
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I already mentioned The Book of Revelation above. I did not mention The Epistrle of Peter. Again, this is not a part of The Gospel of Jesus. I do not know much about Peter. But, I assume he falls into the same general category as Paul. In fact, I think he might have been one of the early Popes of the Roman Catholic Church.
Muslims should avoid quoting The Bible as much as possible, in my opinion. It is too confusing. Qur'an is sufficient for our needs. When we get bogged down into this sort of thing, we end up wasting valuable time that can be better used to study Qur'an and/or learn Qur'anic Arabic.
Last edited by abdurratln; 12-12-07 at 09:32 PM.
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