Vicky said' This is politics not a fairy story and yet somehow you’ve swallowed whole the west’s classic of good leader vs bad leader not the reality of my interest vs your interest.'

Sis with great respect respond to me specifically and don't make presumptuous speeches..I doubt you could lecture me in serious or real politics and I have nothing against real or serious politics and supported Mugabe a very long time..It is the general gist of your posts which implies their is an US defending revolution or regime V THEM who are a uniformed brainwashed pro west anti..If only life were so simple.

Neither do I rely on my enemy for information be they black or western media for that matter..Tend to get them from brothers sisters/Comrades i served with in Zimbabwe, South Africa, including people well known to Mugabe and senior people within and outside government. In fact one good friend was there when the village was cleared over that Chinese deal business and said it was handled appallingly and said so.

However, I saw an interview on Barbados news in the Caribbean where a leading Editor, don't ask me his name, but a very close and pro Mugabe man up until very very recently broke ranks and spoke out..He cited two key incidents which he went into detail on and if you are from there and follow events must have heard about them..But one in particular struck me.

Now before I take anything anybody says i tend to ask a range of questions to establish what their motivation is as is my training and background given I am cynical by disposition and most anti Mugabe stories with sufficient experience it is possible to work out what most likely took place. The editor described in detail a killing he and a whole heap of others witnessed by a government official or senior officer, who saw a member of the opposition in his car from his government buildings office left the building with what I can only work out from what he described as some mini rocket launcher, hand held but small..He is not a military man so he could not tell the make of the weapon..


He said the government official walked up to about six feet of the car and shot it into the vehicle and it basically blew up burning the guy alive where he sat..Now you have to appreciate Caribbeans news is slightly biased towards Mugage and the Barbadian presenter was not going to leave that there and asked my man plenty y of follow up questions each were answered to my satisfaction. He said he had given the government the benefit of the doubt almost as a matter of course, and defended Mugabe from day one. He showed even recent pictures of him and Mugabe, but what he said basically extended on what i said here a long time ago under the circumstances there are many things Mugabe simply is unable to control like parts of his security services or police force or some supporters..Anyone who knows anything about how these organisations work will know that..

But as the guy said Mugabe knew about this incident, because there was no one in Zimbabwe who did not know about it and the killer just walked backed to his government office like he had just come off his lunch break and nothing happened to him..Ordinary people in numbers witnessed this and many tried to put the fire out, but there was not much left of this guy...He said when he saw that and another incident, the only conclusion he could draw which is not unreasonable that in order to remain in power Mugabe has done a deal with the devil and will give certain forces free reign.

Ask yourself this..I have heard 100,000 allegations against Mugabe and never accepted any because with experience you can read behind the lines to how particular things have transpired and the rationale or whether Mugabe actually knew anything about it etc..But I believed this editor and every word he said. Basic things comrades don't bail out on each other easily after 20 plus years..Mugabe is as tough as they come and has gone through the worse the West can do to him, so no reason to bail out when you've been through the worse together. He is not a political rival who wants what Mugabe has. The man clearly liked and respected Mugabe and did not speak or reflect any anger towards him in any way...Just pure sorrow and he was clearly emotionally conflicted..

Moreover,every thing he said was objectively verifiable if one had the resources or inclination to investigate..The date, the time, who was there ,the name of the victim, the name of the perpetrator where he worked..I mean not easy to hide a man who got a massive hole in his chest after being hit by a grenade or rocket launcher type weapon. Don't make no sense making up a shabby lie in the world of security or intelligence work..Got to be good to mean anything..

Nope..I am quite convinced on the balance of probabality that this brother was not lying....unlike others the western camera love. not that they are lying but the interpretation they invite us to take..

The issue for me is not the use of violence not at all..Its about the legitimate and moral use of violence and by whom on whom..You see when I was a young security officer these things were rammed into us and part of our training as leaders who would have to use violence in given circumstances or instruct others to..But with that came a serious and non compromising moral obligations to up keep and maintain a clear ethical framework..You see that's what separates us the good guys from animals, the same as professionals be they police officers, members of the armed forces, naval services etc..These things are not just words, but the basis of all revolution and society, because the security and intelligence services, its armed forces are the backbone of any revolution or social order. We decide ultimately what goes on and us alone. As Weber said we hold the legitimate monopoly of state violence.

What i heard in that interview reminded me of the French Revolution where someone said that the revolution had devoured its own children and the context of defending it from external aggression, spies and informers provided a blanket excuse for wide spread atrocities, paying back personal scores and other hideous criminal acts all in the name of saving the Republic..

You see hears the way I look at this thing practically. I don't know whether that guy who got killed in that way deserved it or was an enemy of the state or actually just screwing the woman he likes god knows worse has happened. But what i do know is this, when he can be killed in that way in broad day light not even waste energy with some night time covert action and in front of ordinary Zimbabweans going about their day to day business. It says to me that a people and an ideal has been betrayed, even in its very defence..Because i have a duty to those poor people who watch that man being killed in that way to protect them from evil tyranny, but by the same token such actions sends what message to those people....

It tells them that I am now their oppressors and such is my arrogance and power and my gun, that i don't even have to hide it from them..

Chariman Mao who should know a bit about being in this type of mess..Did say one thing of value that no conflict is ever them versus US and that is my take on the Zim situation..I don't support the white man or west in anything and will oppose him through pure spite..but never ever again going to wave the Mugabe banner..What i heard in Barbados was a disgrace and morally repugnant..