There are women who just want a man, the man doesn't have to hide any of his kids, indeed for many women the more kids the more of a man....what if she can't have her own...a ready made family is welcoming.

Growing up I wasn't dating any woman who had children, I'd respect a woman if she now held the same view when weighing me up and given the choice I still aint dating no woman with children even if I have children of my own.

Alabamagirl - you don't understand when guys don't take care of their damn kids? Well in many cases you'll find the reality is the kids are not the mans, they are the mothers kids where the mother only needs a man to bankroll them so she can get on with her own life....it's never about the children but more the woman's independence.

You need to define what taking care means, for me raising and financing children are part of the same package, I've grafted and sacrificed to ensure from a roof, to food, to toys to clothes but most of all to a dad that when raising my children they are not short of anything....mess with one element in that raising equation then where do you draw the line. My sacrifices are for my wife and family where from our jobs/careers to our money to our children to our level of consciousness two equals one, this is impossible with independence in the formula because the goal of achieving one-ness already exists without the other. These same women will also talk as if they could have had a baby on their own - it all boils down to selfishness, inherent selfishness.

There are women calling men wotliss or deadbeat but that is simply from their perspective as a babymother or independent woman and how that shallow perspective defines what a dad actually is. If you add bankrolling these women to raise children in ways you would not approve yourself, then taking care of the kids means getting these babymothers out of the equation altogether - ok, maybe they can visit at weekends or something. Why would a rastaman give his babymother money for her to buy bacon?

One thing I know though, I aint denying my children for no piece of pu$$y...she could never be worth that....though I appreciate there are some women you may have long term intentions for where you need to be a bit more diplomatic. I met my new wife a month before my second son was born, but before it went too far (two weeks) I had to tell her the dealio so imagine saying I have 1 son and another on the way and her to still be there after 2, 3 years getting rid of babylon's daughter....which ironically was only a consequence of babylon's daughter trying to get rid of me.

There are mothers who scapegoat their children, that's my first wife to the letter, not taking care of the kids is part and parcel of that scapegoat sellout - it gives them something to make themself look good. Two faced slaves who use children in their battle for equality.

I also appreciate that my views as a man are quite alien, most men will do whatever has to be done to get the pu$$y - they'll scapegoat their own kids just like these babymothers do - it's a class thing....babymothers are for babyfathers wives are for husbands - know your class.

Unmarried/uncultured mothers talking about dads not raising their kids is a two faced insult. Unmarried/uncultured men talking about wotliss women is an insult...you haven't earned the right to your opinion. There are also women who you realise it's not worth telling them your life story when their mentality suggests you'll be losing interest in them in less than three months....get the pum pum and run...she'll find solace listening to the spice girls and watching Eastenders.

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