Originally Posted by Invertedzero
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First of all, that's one person. Secondly, just because it can't be 100% assumed that we live the so called 'black experience', does that mean you should belittle us, or treat us as some foreign entity that doesn't belong? Ur just the same as all dem white folks!
Who is belittling you or treating you like some foreign entity?Just because I'm cognizant of who and what I'm dealing with, doesn't necessarily mean i'm doing either of those things. I interact with some white people in pleasant ways, everyday. That' doesn't mean I am not cognizant of the fact that they are white, or expect to be able to relate to them in regards to my experience as a BLack person. I view the "Piggy" type, IR person the SAME way. Kefla's problem was that he had an expectation of her, and when she didn't meet it, he was disappointed. My expectation of her would have been that she would act, just the way she DID act. I would have gotten along with her fine, same as I would have gotten along with the whites on the trip fine........
You can't have it both ways. I'm biracial so I don't have the true "Black experience", but why are you treating me like someone who has not had the true BLack experience? Either you have or you haven't. If you haven't it doesn't mean I hate you. It just means that is one area of life(a mighty BIG ONE), that I can't relate to you on, anymore than I can relate to whites or Asians on it. It's not the end of the world, there are plenty of other things we may be able to relate on, or maybe not. Either way, that's fine.
Again, there may be a trend, but even so, what's your problem if they are?
No problem at all. You're projecting your own emotions onto what I'm saying. I don't have a problem with biracials who act like Piggy(though they are rare here in the U.S.). They are free to act however they choose, and I am free to view them the way I view them: as de facto white people.
'the benefit of the doubt' - what is that supposed to mean? As though everyone is in some kind of segregation. You're acting exactly like the white folk are. Perhaps for slightly different reasons, but there are still some fundamental viewpoints you seem to share with white supremacists, but for your own race. Who are you to determine whether i'm worthy to be entitled to be classed as part of my heritage!
It means just what it SOUNDS like it means. VERY different reasons, is more accurate, and you are absolutely right, there are some fundamental viewpoints that I share with Crackers(I learned from the best, when in Rome, and all that good stuff), I never claimed otherwise. I don't get to determine how you are classified, MR. Charlie does,lol. I do however get to determine whether or not you are entitled to be part of my PERSONAL idea of the BLack collective, whether you are prone to have divided loyalty, same as I reserve the right to determine that about 2 BLACK PARENT having Negroes with Tom/sellout tendencies. You seem to think biracials should get special treatment of some kind, in that regard. I beg to differ.
Again, you talk from yoru biased viewpoint. I can't speak for all biracials in the UK, a few grow up in middle class environments, where its a bit different, but on the whole i can say that isn't the case for us mixed race people living here. Strictly speaking no biracial person lives a Black experience, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE! However, many of the struggles faced are similar, even if some a bit different. We also have to put up with black people who have a problem with us. On the whole, we're viewed as black, we're often refered to as black (perhaps less so than america, i don't know), and are often discriminated against consciously or subconciously by the general population. We don't live the strict black experience (same goes for biracials in america), but we live something of the sort. All the more reason for the different racial categories to stand, as then true discrimination against black people can be measured more accurately.
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