Originally Posted by Invertedzero

See, you still just don't get it do you? EVEN IN AMERICA THE MIXED RACE EXPERIENCE IS NOT THE SAME AS THE BLACK EXPERIENCE! I'm not talking as in black the racial construct, i don't believe in it. I'm talking about 'black' as in genetically.

YOU still don't get it. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN RACE AS SOCIAL CONSTRUCT,lol. Non biracial Black folks didn't believe in it either. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?People like Rosa Parks who had as much white and Native American blood in them as Black blood, could have sat there arguing with the Crackers trying to drag her off the bus, about how she doesn't believe in race as "social construct", and she has as much non Black blood as she does Black blood. You all are talking in ABSTRACTS, IDEALS, that has nothing to do with you getting your head busted, or lynched, for breaking these taboos,or breaking these LAWS, or having to navigate them in real life. That expereience INFORMS you. It doesn't matter whether you SHOULD have had that experience, based on your GENETICS. ONce you've had the experience you are likely to be bonded with others who've had the experience.

1) im sure there are a minorty of people who treat or at least recognise that mixed race people are partially white. That recognition in itself, if nothing else, CAN and OFTEN leads to subconcious connections, which in turn affect the way they treat mixed race people compared to a black person, even though they're still regarded as being 'black'. In some cases as well, it can actually have a -ve effect, as some people don't like racial mixing, and therefore may 'approve' of a black person more than a mixed race. I don't deny that mixed race people in America face discrimination and the like close to or similar to the effect of black people, but their experience is not compeltely the same or comparable.

Sure they do, and they may feel a little more comfortable around you, and find you less threatening, but that's not unique to bi-racials, sorry to burst your bubble. THere are white people who will tell you that they don't view Continental AFricans or Carribean Blacks,or Hispanic Blacks, the same way they view AMerican Blacks. They like them better, find them easier to "deal with". That they have "less of a chip on their shoulder", etc. There are Continental Africans and Carribean BLacks in AMerica, and Hispanic Blacks who will BRAG about the fact that Whites "LIKE" them better,feel more comfortable around them, would rather deal with them,lol. THat's just what white folks do. No need for fools to get their heads gassed up about it,lol, or make more of it than what it is.....White folks have been giving "honorary white" status to folks for years, when it suits their purposes(just ask OJ). Bi racials aren't special in that regard.

I'm gonna show ya'll something about white people, cause ya'll clearly don't understand their psyches, eventhough some of you are closely related to them....

Malcolm X use to recount an incident that a friend told him. He stated that the friend was a very dark skinned Black AMerican, and that one day they were discussing how absurd white racism is, and how insane it and most white people are at their core. He said this friend told him I'm gonna show you how crazy Crackers are. THe friend lived in Richmond,Va, and of course this was back during segregation. The friend said if I walk into this segregated restaurant dressed like an AMerican with an AMerican accent(in other words as a native born Black person), they will run me out of here, BUT if I wrap something around my head, and come into the same restaruant with a fake accent, they will serve me, and not even blink. The friend tested out the theory and even went as far as to ask the waitress in his fake African accent if the restaruant served Black people. The waitress said in her thick Virginia drawl...."No we don't and no Black people would dare ever try to come in here and eat....."

A. This concept was not always and is not always about GENETICS for these people. Ya'll keep trying to make sense of something that makes no sense. Ya'll keep trying to make insanity be sane. It doesnt work.......You'lll just give yourself a headache....No matter how much Crackers play little head games with this or that group when it suits their purposes, the bottom line is still the same(you ain't one of them), and they will INVARIABLY let the fool with the gassed up head, know that before it's all over with it. That's the beauty of American racism.

2) Even if they were given the 'black experience', which i assume you refer to as the view of being looked down upon by some white people, their expereince in life would not be the same as yours, stop being so self indulgent to think that all of our experiences are calculated in terms of a fraction of yours. We get different issues to put up with as well naturally from having white family. A black person does not have any direct white family. Therefore different issues arise from this. Such as for one example the frustration of being rejected by your own ethnic group that your parent's family fits into. Also being labelled or discriminated by some black people who don't like you because you're light skinned, for reasons which vary, but i'm sure you can figure. There are other complex issues to do with being mixed race that don't all revolve around living the black experience. Therefore, any biracial person wherever does not live the black experience. Usually they live something similar of the sort, and in cases face as much racism and crap, but it is not the same experience. And even if they don't, what's wrong with that? You're sortof saying that everything non-black is corrupt or bad or not worthy. worthy of what? belonging to your community. I wouldn't want to belong to your personal community if thats the case. I have my black family who i was mainly brought up with and friends who accept me for who I am, regardless of how white they percieve me to be, either physically or culturally. I'd rather not have to constantly be making an effort to fit in with people who don't regard me as being worthy of their time. Its as bad as how white people thought.

So the fundamental difference in experience is that biracials are sometimes NOT accepted by white folks(whom they happen to be related to)non Biracial BLacks wouldn't know anything about not being "accepted" by white folks....., and sometimes not accepted for being light skinned or having "european" features, by Black folks (which plenty of 2 BLack parent Black folks experience...). I didnt say it was the SAME experience. A Black Hispanic is not going to have the EXACT same experience with Crackers as I do. Neither is a Black from another country, going to have the exact SAME experience as I do, a BLack man is not going to have the exact same experience I do with whites as a BLack woman(there are going to be somethings he experiences that i'm not as likely to experience, and vice versa), but the experience is similar enough for them not to sit there looking dumbfounded like PIggy,lol, or acting like i'm speaking another frigging language, called N*gger, or something,lol.



I never said anything about anybody having to make an effort to fit in with people. I told you I accept people as they are, and relate to them in whatever ways that I can relate to them(if I'm so inclined based on other things about them, like intellect,pleasantness, etc). I just said that for ME the BLack experience is a big chunk of me and it's important for ME in regards to relating to people beyond any superficial levels, usually. That's me, others don't feel that way. They are as eager to forget that they are BLack as you are,(not u specifically, u generally), or being Black is just coincidental or incidental to who they are. That's a match made in heaven.....

3) As i've already said, what's wrong with them being a piggy, you should accept and embrace them as part of your own no matter what they're experience is. In fact all races should do that of each other, but it seems we cant even do that for mixed race people.

Nothing wrong with Piggy being Piggy. I told you I would have gotten on with Piggy Fabulously....I don't know why that isn't enough for you.....


4) RACE DOES NOT EXIST IN THE HUMAN GROUP. HUMANS ARE A RACE. (I simply use the terms as its easier to explain something to someone -i.e theyre the relavent terms society uses. I hope for this to change someday, but for now i can't see it.