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Default 18-03-08, 11:59 PM

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because I don't agree with much of what you say about christianity especially about being brainwashed and slaves you assume many untrue things about me.
Generally I say what I think about you. The only time that I do not say it is when I think I will be unnecessarily offensive and counter-productive. So, rest assured that if I have not said it, I have not "assumed" it.

There is no doubt that the Bible has been used to justify slavery, contrary to prophesy, especially the prophesy of Moses (Peace and Blessings be upon him). And, many Christians have been brain-washed to ignore this fact and/or to accept slavery as part of their Christian theology. To say this is not to be personal or subjective. This is an objective statement pertaining to objective historicaL facts. It has very little to do with you personally. All I am trying to do is let you know that any intelligent, thinking African needs to reject a submission to European slavery. By adhering to the principles of Black Liberation Theology, we refuse to accept a submission to slavery. Thus, we have a foundation upon which we can be free men and women with human dignity as given to us by GOD.

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that simply is your not being comfortable with what and who you are.
I am a Muslim. Politically, I am an Nkrumahist-Toureist. True, it is not always "comfortable" to hold my positions.

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your judgement is clouded by your ideal of whites and sympathy for blacks.
Actually, I seldom think in terms of "whites" and "blacks". Those are racist concepts. I prefer to call us Africans. And, I call the Europeans Europeans; and, the Asians Asians. I call the Indians Native Americans, etc. This way, I avoid the racism trap.

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through out the history of the world it can be easily noted where evil men misused the bible, koran, sandskirt and other writings of the so called religions of the world. islam is not exempt.
How do you know if you never read Qur'an?

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you boasted on islam and now have come to push something called nkruhism or something.
Osagyefo Dr. Kwame Nkrumah was a Christian as far as we know by public record. So, what's the big deal? Ain't this what you want to see? A Muslim following a Christian?

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what is islam not good enough for you now?
Black Liberation Theology is compatible with Islam and Nkrumahism-Toureism. 99% of what we know as Christinity is compatible with Islam.

What is NOT compatible is what is known as secularism as expressed mainly by the Protestant Movement and zionism. So, as long as you adhere to exactly what is recorded in the prophesies of the Bible, there is no conflict between Christinity and Islam. You must remember that at the time that Islam was Revealed, Muslims found refuge in Christian Ethiopia. Why did the Muslims and Christians get along so well in Africa? Because both worshipped the exact same GOD. At that time Qur'an had not been fully Revealed. So, the Bible was our main source of guidance.

What happened over time is that somebody tampered with the Bible. But, Qur'an came along and held the Muslims true to the True Religion, that Old Time Religion of Abraham and Moses (Peace and Blessings be upon them both).

Still later, there was the Protestant Movement and the slave trade. (I concede that slavery existed in Arabia and Africa prior to Islam. But, it was not until the Christians came along that we had this racial problem that we see now in America where only Africans can be enslaved. In pre-Islamic Arabia and Africa, slaves were often white Europeans and Asians, not black Africans.) There was the Christian Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, etc. It is not a pretty picture.)


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or did you and this guy add to it or redevelop the themes of islam to fit your culture?
Osgayfo died around 1972. This work called "Marxism-Leninism and Nkrumahism" was published around that time. It is true that I helped to refine Nkrumahism. This occured in the early 1990's. This refinement is known as Nkrumahism-Toureism. There is nothing to hide.

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christianity as does God changeth not...
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I am not going to "assume" anything about you. I am going to call you a liar. Every fool knows that there have been many changes in Christianity. This is why there are so many denominations. Of course, I have tried to avoid this issue. I know you have been trying to discuss denominations in another thread. But, I wanted no part of it. But now, you have forced the issue on me. Every one of those denominations and "schisms" represent changes in Christianity. And, you know it.

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