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20-03-08, 09:06 PM

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Let me get this straight with you brother. I know little about either. I do not attend conferences where they ask me to give the price of the last pair of shoes I bought or a house note. Good certainly can come from them but most are scams. The NBC or the PNBC can do nothing but tell me what the bible says.
Cool. Th epoint is they are not the same. The PBNC grew out of the NBC. The NBC refused to support the Civil Rights Movement. I think this was at last due in part to their reading those verses where we are told to obey the slave masters. PNBC accepted Black Liberation Theology at least to a point. This is what Dr. King was about. I certainly hope you can see that Dr. king did GOD's Will.

I know myself what it says because I do as God commanded which is to study to show myself approved UNTO God (not man).

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abd, the only reason we have baptist on our sign is because that the majority of christians feel comfortable with the baptist doctrine. baptist are pretty much sound in what they do teach, they get in trouble usually with what they don't teach.
Did you know that the Soutern Baptist Convention supported slavery? My own family goes way back in the Baptist Church. We have a history of fighting slavery. But, many of us also accpted the evils of Jim Crow segregation. I am one of the few who supported Civil Rights from day one. For me, it is logical growth to become an African nationalist. Because the Baptists have failed in their duties towards Africa, I found it necessary to seek out Islam to reclaim my African heritage.

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In our assembly it is about the bible and what it says. We encourage people to bring their bibles and read it for themselves.
Yeah. I know exactly what you are talking about. Instead of being honest and reading the Bible verse by verse, chapter by chapter from the beginning to the end, you skip around, twist things and take them out of context. Otherwise, you would see clearly that Genesis is about Africa. And, you would see that the prophesies are anti-slavery which is contrary to the teachings of Saint Paul. It is a trick. It is a corrupt way of teaching doctrine. Baptist doctrine is about supporting slavery and just about every other reactionary and evil force in American society.

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Not long ago they tried to make my pastor a bishop in the "full gospel" association. He declined but told them that if they could tell him what the half gospel or quarter gospel is that he would consider it. His point is that you are either preaching the Gospel or you are not. God only recognizes the whole counsel of the word, not partial.
Well, no wonder you are confused. There is much more to the Bible than just Gospel. Personally, I think Prophesy is more important than Gospels.

There are so many crooks in the church today who are pimping the people of God. >>>1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: 7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power. 8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; 9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: 10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, 11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: 12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him. 13 Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.
Eph 3:1-13 (KJV)[/quote]

Okay. Apparently you have not read those verses. Check out Verses 7-8: Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power. 8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ. Dis he not say that he was the least of all saints? Yeah, he said it. And, for once I agree with him. He was even less than the least at one point in time because he was a murderer of believers, a hired killer.

In any case, he compromised the gos[pels and the prophesy in order to appease the Gentiles. This is why he tells the poor helpless slaves who had nobody to turn to but GOD to obey the slave masters. That was a stupid and cowardly thing to do. But, it is to be expected from Saint Paul. Aftyerall, Paul was NOT a prophet.
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