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Default 25-03-08, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by meknow View Post
abd, have you been listening at all? you are so bent in your determination to make every one a muslim that you miss the big picture.
GOD is the big picture.

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what have i said about palestine? check and find out. i have never been for jews killing palestinians or visa versa. it is equally as wrong on either side.
Garbage. Who started the fight? Palestinians did not go to New York and kick Jews out and take Jeiwsh property and land. If they did, than Jews would have every right to resist and fight back. And, I would have every right to support the Jews. And, I would support the jews. Just as I support Ethiopian right to resist Muslim attacks against them, I would support any people who defend their homes, families and property.

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but you made a statement that honors the violence.
Muslims are not pussies committed to irrational non-violence and pacifism. I have never claimed otherwise. The bible teaches us an eye for an eye, etc. This is Justice.

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in your first diatribe and third paragraph you stated that there can be no peace under certain circumstances. if you represent the palestinians you are no better than the israelis.
I represent what GOD has Commanded of us: Justice and Fair-Play. It is wrong for Muslims to impose injustice and it is wrong for zionists or anyone else to impose imjustice.

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you still want to compare the bible with the koran
Absolutely not. If you have been paying attention which I doubt, you would know by now that there is nothing copmparable to Qur'an, not even The bible.

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when there is none abd. jehovah and allah are not the same.
I will not try to define what you mean by Jehovah. But, Allah is the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD.

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you even claim that muslims at one time used the bible. hahahahhahahahahha
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nearly 40 different writers over 1000s of years and you can only yell and scream that someone changed scriptures with not one iota of proof.
The proof is in the pudding. Every contradiction in The Bible is proof that it has been changed because GOD does not contradict Himself. Common Sense. The dumbest Christian in the world can figure this much out.

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and you have the audacity to lie on the bible being changed and one of your muslim brothers has already said that the koran is looked at every so often and rewritten as needed to conform with the times. Mrmuhhammed.
Brother Muhammad has not indicated to me that he is a true Muslim who adheres to Islamic Traditions. For all I know, he is a fake Muslim. As a general rule, one cannot know if another is a MUslim or not until the two pray together. It is during prayer that every Muslim always affrims his Shahada. Thus, by praying together, we all know who is and whio is not a Muslim. So, do not confuse me with anyone who claims to be a Muslim unless I affirm that he is a Muslim.

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lets see the word servent is not in those scriptures...hmmmmm what do maids do abd?
Maids in modern America are not slaves or second class citenzens who have no rights. Why would you suppose that that was the case under GOD's Law? Clearly GOD has said Let my people go. So, it is not too far fatched to assume that a maid under Father Abraham and Sarah (Peace and Blessings be upon them both) was a servant without rights as you propose. To prove this, we need only read that one verse. In that verse, Mother Hagar (Peace and Blessings be upon her) is called wife. Thus, she has all of the legal rights of a wife. It is an outrageous lie that is repeated all too often by Christians that Mother Hagar was a servant, or a slave, or concubine when The Bible clearly says that she was a wife. Enven if she had been a slave or servant, under Islamic Law shge would still have certain GOD-giiven rigjhts that no man could take away. Bersides, Ishmael was Abarham's eldest son, the First Born of Many Nations. Ishmael was absolutely NOT a servant. His rank was even higher than that of Issac. This is why Sarah allowed evil to confuse her such that she attempted to reverse GOD'S Will in much the same way that Mother Eve allowed the snake to confuse her about GOD's Commands. (Peace and Blessings be upon all of the prophets and prohetesses) In any case, Zam Zam proves that GOD wanted things as they are because GOD not only allowed Mother Hagar to bear Father Ishmael. when evil tried to destroy Ishmael, GOD stepped in and saved him by giving him water. And, we have concrete proof thast this happened. The prrof is seen every year during the Islaimic Pilgrimnage to Mecca and Medina, called al-Hajj. GOD-willing, I shall perform al-Hajj this year. All types of Perfect Praise is due to Alllah and Only too Allah.

Go figure.

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