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Originally Posted by Geoff
All of the above in varying degrees.
Jobs in general, and the pushing down of wages.
Public services, that are overstretched already, accomadating people who have made no previous contribution.
Housing has always been a problem, many newcomers exacerbates that problem.
"Whip hand" over the English ? Dont understand the question.
Changeing the character and nature of the Blighty has been a work in progress for centuries, it is the speed of change that causes concern.
Crime Rate up by profesional criminals, who can now travel unhindered throughout Europe, yes, not an unreasonable concern ?
Nothing specifically racist in these concerns.
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Like others have stated it is the British employers who employing people for below the minimum wage and thus breaking the law. When you are new to a Country you do what you need to do to survive and are thus open to expliotation by employers Blame the British employers for "driving down wages".
Hospitals rely on immigrant labour: nearly a quarter of NHS doctors and half of all NHS nurses were born outside the UK. I have only ever seen Africans and Eastern European working in care homes, with Britain being an ageing population and taking care of the elderly not a concern for British people, can one put a value on this service?
How do they exacerbate the problem? Do they crash the housing market, do they make it harder for first time buyers, and did they force local authorities to first sell off their stock of social housing and then stop building them? I’ll tell you what many of these new arrivals do, they often get together to be able to afford extortionate amount of rent from British landlords only to happy to yet again exploit a great number of them. It has been recently proven that new comers despite press coverage to the contrary do not jump housing lists and gain priority over the British.
The whip hand is a reference to everyone’s favorite immigration expert old Enoch, if a great deal of English do not feel “at home in their own country surely it’s because they feel some “other” has the advantage – the whip hand over them.
The speed of the change? A great deal of migrants are just passing through such changes are not as lasting as you would think – if you think this change is quick be thankful nobody is using a maxium gun to enforce any changes.
Everyone is concerned about international crime and professional criminals such as Simon Mann and Sir Mark Thatcher that can now travel unhindered throughout the world.
Most of the "concerns" are based on incorrect and irrational fear as explained to you earlier in the thread. The government has attempted to alleviate these fears by effectly barring entry to the UK to Africans and Asians who have traditionally come over to do the unglamourous jobs. The whole East Europen phenomenon has allowed those with a racist agenda to speak of immigration and pretend it is not linked with race. It has allowed Sir Andrew Green to make a distiction between "good hard working, will go home East Europeans" and "bad, darker skinned third world immigrants." This in turn has allowed unfounded "concerns" about immigration to have a platform, and created the space for the BNP to gain a seat in the London assembly.