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Posts: 3,965
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: , Florida, USA
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06-05-08, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mike pain
shemsi siad
"It may sound depressing, but we might have a few sovereign nations today if not for European involvement"
...on another thread i tried to raise a topic entitled prose and cons of slavery, and tried to elaborated about and make the point that my goodness obviously slavery and the colonies were a bad thing, but the indirect effect of it was a sense of individual nation states and a uniting rule of law ....of course my topic on 'pros and cons' was closed after only one person complained...( so much for 'mature and adult debate')
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I don't consider any of the indigenous African (non-Arab) states in Africa to be sovereign as they are still very much at the political whim of Europe and America. My point was that there would be almost no difference on the Continent except that we may have a few truly sovereign nations in Africa (Zulu, Yoruba, Ethiopia, Mossi/Ashante, etc.) if Europeans never invaded. However, the longevity of even those few would be in serious question given Islamic expansion on the Continent.
So I don't necessarily see a "pro" at all whether there was European imposition or not. Some positive always will work itself out somehow no matter the circumstances. Your topic on the "pros and cons" of slavery would be like Native Americans professing it as a good thing so many of their ancestors were slaughtered by Europeans, where now more reparations money from the U.S. government is granted to each individual. I mean seriously, for someone to even think that way about themselves, about their own people, you must ask what is really going on with you.
If we were real citizens, then there would be no need for "Civil Rights". There are already enough laws on the law books to protect the rights of real citizens.

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