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Gmahogany777 · (#951 (**permalink**))

@Taysense-The 20% number may have been higher than in some other states, but it wasn’t THAT much higher. Furthermore, like I said, whites in Southern states are just less likely to lie about race matters when speaking to pollsters than whites in other places…

I don’t disagree that WV or KY in and of themselves are NOT necessary for a win (places with large pockets of very similar demographics ARE though). My point was, it’s not just those states where he is struggling with the demographic we are speaking of. Pennsylvania and Ohio have the same kinds of folks in them, that is why he lost. He didn’t lose as badly because Pennsylvania and Ohio have sizeable enough Black populations to offset the other numbers, KY and WV don’t. You’re right about Kerry and Gore losing the states you mentioned, and losing the demographic we’re speaking of in general….and they LOST their respective general elections as I recall. That was my point. It wasn’t about race when they lost and it won’t necessarily be about it if he doesn’t get that demographic to support him.

There are people in all states struggling, but some states have more than their share of struggling people, and KY and WV are such places. So is Ohio right now, and so is Michigan and so are certain parts of Pennsylvania, and the same voting pattern emerged in those places(Clinton getting more support). Again, it is only because those places have large numbers of AA’s that he didn’t lose worse than he did………

I have no intention of getting on any train,lol. I’ve typed at great length about why I’m not voting for dude, it’s nothing personal. My mind is made up about that. A friend of mine asked me if I’d change my mind if he put Hillary on the ticket. My answer is NO. I don’t’ come to decisions lightly but once I do, it’s a done deal. My not voting for him is not contingent on whether I think he will or won’t win. It’s irrelevant to me. I’m not a bandwagon type person. He may well win,(though I’m inclined to think he won’t), but it won’t be with MY assistance. Bill Clinton won in spite of me not voting for him. I neither contemplated suicide nor regretted my choice because of it,lol. As a matter of fact, it took some years, but I got the last laugh because I got to see all of the Negroes who voted for him, turn on him like rabid dogs,lol, and act totally new in reference to him. So it goes……

@Meknow-I take issue with the comments about Jackson and Sharpton. It’s one of the reasons I didn’t like the narrative of Obama’s campaign from the jump. This idea that Jackson and Sharpton were these inarticulate clowns and that we never had serious or credible candidates til this uniquely intelligent and articulate Black person named Obama hit the scene. It’s insulting on it’s face,(not to mention untrue), but like most things during this election that fact has gone right over most Negroes head. BTW, Jesse Jackson won 11 primaries and garnered 12 million votes,(Obama and Clinton garnered 5 million more each, but 12 million ain’t nothing to sneeze at….). I documented this in some thread on this Board about a year ago…..but ya’ll can look it up of you doubt that I know what I’m talking about. 12 million people took him seriously, quite a few of them WHITE people, who felt his POPULIST message. Most folks don’t know that cause they are too busy accepting what the white media regurgitates about Jackson and Sharpton, but I digress. Furthermore, Jackson didn’t have to do any bending over,(hiding out from Negroes, etc) to get the white votes he DID get. How ya’ll like them apples????? Obama has stated and written in one of his books, I believe, that it was seeing JACKSON give a speech during the 88 campaign that FIRST made him think that HE might be able to become Prez.