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I must say, however, that I have never met a disgruntled Catholic of any ethnic background who did not leave the Catholic Church with a hair up their respective asses regarding the relevance and authenticity of all organized religion. Hence, I will take your criticisms with a grain of salt understanding that you just can’t help yourself.
Since I have never been baptized I can't even qualify as a Christian much less a Catholic. I attended a Catholic grade school and high school but I decided I was an agnostic at 12. That is what a science fiction education will do for you. Introduce you to ideas totally outside of the approved box.

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By the way, you have always intrigued me: in your cryptic, almost poetic queries, with very little you always manage to say so much. Your illuminating reflections on science and technology are only out done by your witty and dryly sardonic witticisms on science fiction and religion (especially the hypocrisy that often accompanies the latter of the two).
So I am a poet

and don't know it.

But my feet show it

because they are long fellows. 11 1/2

The vast majority of sci-fi was written by smarter than normal White guys and I bet plenty of them didn't get along that well with NORMAL White guys. This resuslts in a somewhat bifurcated perspective which I found very curious since, being Black, I am not part of the officially approved paradigm of reality anyway. Just another invisible man.

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Evidence? Why on earth would I feel compelled to present “evidence” when my original claims have yet to be called into question? It is one thing to interject the idea of alternate causality into a discussion, it is entirely another to back it up with specific ideas and practical examples; something you failed to do.
To pick on the Catholic Church doesn't the Pope and cardinals and bishops qualify as a heirarchy of leadership? But what direction do they have besides psychologically conditioning children to be followers throughout their adult lives? The leadership is actually more about psychological suppression and that is what it looked like when I was on the receiving end. One nun told me I would get into a good high school but I wouldn't do well. I got straight D's in religion my freshman year. I thought it was very funny next to my straight A's in math.

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Holy Angels School, run by the very effective Black African American Priest Father Clemens ran a very successful school - and father Clemens didn't put up with any nonsense amongst the students or outsides trying to cause trouble, corruption. Father Clemens did not allow any gang activity inside or outside the school nor did he allow corruptions like this nut case, Afro Centric Liberation theology - hate white cult run by Jeremiah Wright and financial supported by Barack Obama.
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Institutionalized leadership is more about conditioning followership than going anywhere.

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None of my claims are controversial and all of them are well attested to by mainstream African American scholarship, current and old. Make your case for what other American, African American, or African institutions generated Black leaders in America and I will respond accordingly.
40 years after the moon landing and what has all of this scholarship told Black Americans about the planned obsolescence of automobiles? Can anyone that understands technology not know about that? John Kenneth Galbraith wrote about it in 1959 in one of his most famous books, The Affluent Society. MX and MLK could have both read it. What did either of them say about science technology and economics?

I am more interested in knowledge distribution to support individual thought. That is why I mention everyone understanding accounting not just advocate Black business. Though I still think Blacks standardizing on Linux would be a good idea.

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