Flexi said:"well i agree that its hard to find a positive black male role model...it is indeed... but i'll praise up the brothers and tell them exactly what they are good at....
Listen partner. On principle I don't get involved in these type of threads because they are quite offensive intellectually. And like you I never read these threads seriously with the exception of a couple of comments from favourite people.
But really for you, or anyone,to say that it is hard to find positive role models;leads me to ask where and what part of the plantet you are living on? Let me apologies, you could be talking about the world of the white media, or so called black media, but because I have not read the entire thread, could be pissing in the wind. If so I applogies now.
But generally when people make these kind of points, from my experience says more about those making those comments.
My contact books are choc a bloc with top class,[A1] tried and tested brothers, in all kinds of feilds; and you can't help bumping into brothers. One of my closest/trusted brothers, who is a bad man in his feild, told me the other day how he bumped into a white guy in their feild and cut a long story short, introduced him to some brothers; who he said are wicked in their discipline and who he is now hooking up with.
The other day, I was in my building society and I bumped into a brother who is from my island, who I always bump into him annually back home. We were discussing issues and various work we are carrying out in our home country, and I noticed a brother eveasdropping and 'pacifly' part of the dialogue. After my countryman left, the brother[Nigerian] introduced himself to me, and told me he could'nt help but follow the conversation and explained he was a development engineer, even though he worked as a Social Worker[what's new] and he attended one of the best institutions in the country. The South African president's nephew, a bredrin of mine from university, trained as an Oceanographer, but is also a social worker ,wiping the arse of the dysfunctional and dependent. And he is mixed race.
Subsequently we kept in contact, with the Nigerian brother, and when you see the work and ideas my man had which he had shelved. Now we are in the process of arranging for our engineers to hook up with my man and take this discussion furhter.
I find these kind of threads funny, because it would seem to be essentially for the under 30's and women. The reason being is this, in educational, professional and exepriential terms black women are like kids to men. The most advanced in any and almost every feild are black men, who are not part of this under 25-30 dysfunctional/dislocated generation. If you want to find highly educated black people, you have to check black men.
When I attended a particular elite institution, as an undergraduate, I did not see any black women, probably one and in fact most elite institutions, where you find black people, they tend to be male.
So if we don't see black men on television, or in the media and when we do see black people they tend to be girls and women, which makes many of us laugh, it is simple. Black men are the power of black society, the real muscle, not women. We are the ones who will break white power and dominance not women. 1000, educated black women have less social and political consequence than 100 black men.
White men would be terrified if we got profile, not only about what we would do with it, but he would stuggle to get women of their choice, because we would have them to reject at will. Women with education are not as important as men, with education, because our fundamental instincts and oreintation are different. Women will suck up and nuture and big up an enemy. It is their nature men will not, unless lesser men who exist in every group. The more weedy weak, less powerful types.
I cannot forget as a kid who loved American history, how most of the white men who wiped out and systematically exterminated native American civilisation, had native American women. As white men did in South Africa. Took a long time for me to work out what that was about, women spreading their legs for an enemy; while the same enemy was persuing their fathers, brothers, cousins and friends and ex lovers to wipe them out.
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