Is there a difference?

Shari · (#1 (**permalink**))

Niggaz and black people is there a difference. Chris Rock quote"I like black people, but I hate niggaz", what do you think?. What defines a black person and what defines a nigga, or does black/nigga equal the same?

~Gemini~ · (#2 (**permalink**))

n1gger is a racial slur for black people, beyond that it has no meaning

neo brown · (#3 (**permalink**))

Some what confused by this one......

****** is an offensive term oringally used to describe black people by racist white people. It seems to be used by black people (less so these days thankfully) as some kind of ironic slang.

I dont think you can really define it since its a stupid word based on stupidity. Chris used it in a certain way and im sure others use it in their own way. Chris obviously meant ignorantblack peoplethough it is not always used in this way.

The difference between a Blackman and a ****** is a black man is used to describe a man who is sort of black in colour (brown usually but black to a white man i guess lol) where as ****** is not a man it is a derogatory term.

Its like asking what the difference is between a women and a bitch....a women is a women and a bitch is a female dog.

Lucas... · (#4 (**permalink**))

mmmmmmm....

nigga ****** niggaz etc etc

i never use that word or those word(s).... and i hate to see how black people have now trivialised that word.... i dont use that word not even in jest.... the way how i see it is.... alot of good strong.... people have died to have that name lifted from our race.... and to use it even in jest is to make a mockery of there sacrifice.... even if only in jest.... plus it just sounds downright ignorant coming from a black persons mouth....

~Gemini~ · (#5 (**permalink**))

Stealth Black wrote:

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@ Gemini instead of blatantly trying to overshadow non - Jamicans with your flag you probably no jack ish of why don't you enlighten us with some 'positive ' facts about jamaica to add.

I couls easy do the same but I am at peace with my culture and heritage I don't think you are,tell me are you one of those from the parish of Hanover that walk around with umbrellas to shade them from the sun???? if so I'm not to surprised.

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your so at peace with your heritage that you try to claim clearley non-African peoples as African?

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LOL

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Kunjufu · (#6 (**permalink**))

Lucas... wrote: [quote]

mmmmmmm....

nigga ****** niggaz etc etc

i never use that word or those word(s).... and i hate to see how black people have now trivialised that word.... i dont use that word not even in jest.... the way how i see it is.... alot of good strong.... people have died to have that name lifted from our race.... and to use it even in jest is to make a mockery of there sacrifice.... even if only in jest.... plus it just sounds downright ignorant coming from a black persons mouth....

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Lucas: I totally and utterly concur with you..I really cannot understand the mentality that seriously believes that you reapropriate a word like that and give it a new spin..that to me is horse do do...

~Gemini~ · (#7 (**permalink**))

Stealth Black wrote:

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@ Gemini what non - African , you joker, alllrighhtt ,listen jamaica doesn't do a damn thing for me so know that.

YOU CAN'T EVEN ANSWER THE QUESTION. WHAT ARE YOU -YOUR NOT CARIBBEAN OR WEST INDIAN EITHER.

LOL.

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why are you so obsessed with Jamaica?

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I don't expect Jamaica to do anything for you?LOL

[quote]and again a person at peace with their heritage wouldn't try to claim non-African people as African

kanday · (#8 (**permalink**))

Mz_M wrote:

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I AGREE WITH LUCAS..clp)

ITS A NEGATIVE WORD THAT WE WOULD TAKE OFFENCE TOO .. IF WE WAS CALLED THIS BYA NON BLACK... BUT SUM ACCEPTWLL ACCEPT IT FROM OUR OWN...

PERSONALLY I DONT ACCEPT IT FROM ANYONE... ITS A NEGATIVE PUT DOWN.. DAT WE NEED 2DELETE FROM OUR VOCAB..

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MZ M......... YOU KNO THIS....THE WORD NIGGA...IS USED TO FREELY IN OUR SOCIETY DONT QUOTE ME IF IM WRONG BUT IT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN FREELY USED IN TALK SHOWS/COMEDYS AND AS STREET LANGUAGE IN THE STATES AND LIKE EVERYTHING WAT STARTS IN THE STATES USUALLY FINDS ITS WAY HERE B 4 LONG I HATE THE WORD...ITS DEROGATORY AND DOWN RIGHT INSULTING WETHER IT BE FROM A BLACK PERSON OR A WHITE PERSON...AND FRANKLY US AS BLACK PEOPLE ARE SAYING ITS OK TOO CALL ME A ****** ...COZ HOW CAN WE USE IT AMONGST OURSELFS AND THEN EXPECT NEVER TO BE CALLED IT BY A PERSON NOT OF BLACK COLOUR?

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SO MA HOMEBOY CAN CALL ME A NIGGA BUT A WHITE MAN CANT COZ HE HAS NO RIGHT TOO....WHO U THINK STARTED THE WORD ******? THE KKK THE WHITE MAN

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END OV....

[quote]NIGGA WHO ****** WAT= WHAT IS A ****** N E WAY!

untitled · (#9 (**permalink**))

Shari wrote:

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Niggaz and black people is there a difference. Chris Rock quote"I like black people, but I hate niggaz", what do you think?. What defines a black person and what defines a nigga, or does black/nigga equal the same?

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Well, interesting to see how quickly this topic changed!! I remember seeing this routine by Chris and what he was getting at was that just when black people have something to be proud of interms of advancement in society (or even on a smaller scale), somebody - a nigga (different from ******) - comes along and ****s it up for everyone. Either by curtailing that advancement or projecting a negative image that overshadows the positive image that the "black people" had worked so hard at...

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So the question remains: "What defines a black person and what defines a nigga, or does black/nigga equal the same?" This routine caused a lot of talk along the same lines and it would be hard to try and state that there are definite and distinct differences. Chris Rock was making the point that "niggas" are destructive and black people are productive. There is a whole movement going on at the moment against rappers/drug dealers et al because they are seen as a destructive force in society, especially in black societies. Therefore, these could be said to be your "niggas". Your black people are those that strive to bring black people forward, those who you might say are positive role models - Colin Powell (you have no idea how it galls me to write that, but he is seen as a role model...), various powerful and established black lawyers, business people and so forthwho you'll always find published in Ebony magazine. Or looking at movies, something like "Boyz In Da Hood", or "Gridlocked" could be seen as a "nigga" movie, whereas "The Wood" could be seen as a "black people" movie, if that makes sense...

[quote]That's what I think Chris Rock was getting at, whether or not it is a flawed concept...

Saida.M · (#10 (**permalink**))

I use to agree with all of what Lucas said BUT I think times has changed. I have said this before andI will say it again - words are like living things; over periods of time they do change their meaning to almost unrecogniseble status and their original impacts are also lost. I use to hate, (and still do, to a certain extent), dislike it when my daughters would bring home hip- hop records containing these words. Now its just everyday stuff. I doubt ifI would like it if a white person was to call me nigga, but asI explained to my daughters - that is how far the word can get to - to the point that the word nigga/****** etc.,could be used by a white person to a black person and no offence would be taken!!!!

SoliceSeeker · (#11 (**permalink**))

****** / negro: This is what we were told to be, when we ruled not our destiny.

Black PEOPLE: This is what with knowledge of self, we then strove to be and to be seen as such. A commuinty in unity.

Nggas/Niggaz (see ******): Through ignorence and lack of knowledge, this is what some of our number have chosen.

To become:

Slaves competing to see who has the biggest chain.

God Guide us.

SoliceSeeker · (#12 (**permalink**))

Excuse my poor spelling & Gramma.

HarryO · (#13 (**permalink**))

In my city in the Southwest USA, nigga is someone who embodies the getto. It isn't a ignorant, stupid, or foolish person. It's someone who has to endure the struggles of the hood, which makes us strong. 2pac & Will Smith, Pac was a nigga Will is what I consider just a black man. 2Pac was far from stupid, but stayed true to himself and didn't change who he was for nobody. Niggaz are like modern day field slave who don't suck d!ck to get ahead or for "Masters" table scraps