@Kunjufu

Thank you for the excellent article you posted about Winston Silcott, these are my thoughts: - The lynching of Winston Silcott is a story of tragedy/triumph. What this Brotherhasendured, and has some how survived is an example of REAL STRENGTH. This is the kind of strength that isforged inreal suffering, where a Manhas tomake a choice - either be broken or live. Winston Silcott choseto live, and he has shownthe enemies ofTrue Black Menthat he is a hundred times more of a man than they'll ever be. He has emerged from his nightmare intriumph,sound of mindand body.This Systemdoes indeed stand indicted for its crime against him, but hewill go on because this Brother has so much to teach.He is more than just another black man who found injustice in this system. He is of that generation of True Black Men who foughtagainstoppressionin the early eighties Uprisings at Brixton, Tottenham andToxteth. I am proud to say that I was among these Brothers, I was stationed at Brixton. And we kicked face. It is because we foughtthat much of the current anti-discrimination legislation was introduced, and which so many have beenquick toexploit. I didn't see any independent women fighting on the streets on those scary nights, neither did I seeany white women or queers. Neither did I see the type of "brother" who is such a gallant defender of Black Women’s honor, out there on the streetson those scary nights. This "brother� and his female alter ego were probablysafely tucked up at home condemning theYouth whoput their necks on the line.To you, Mr.Knight inShining Amour, who claims to be so well read - I bet you didn'tknow that the riots in 1984 were sparked by the shooting of Cynthia Garret and Cherry Grose, twoof ourMothers!After years of harassment, the shooting of our Mothers by the Police was the final straw. And we responded with Rage. What do you offerother than words when True Sisters are offended Mr. Knight in Shining Amour? And to all those who object to the language that Black Men use to describe their enemies - Tough! You are what you are. And to you who question my ability to argue rationally, I challenge you to a debate on any of theissues I have raised, but then that would require you to confront me directly (in a forum), not hiding behind the coat- tails of the moderators, running to them with stories like the weak, Dependent wannabe that you've proven yourself to be. For a definition of independence and strong Black Manhood see the life of Winston Silcott.

nativeson

clp)Nuff props blud!I back up what you say Bruh. I think i know the brudda your talkin about, he must think hes a playa lol! but im ah eedeeyyaat.

Aint it funny how these jokers dont say nothin when bro's are gettin disrepected in films like Color Purpleor when women refer to bro's as dogs but if a bro uses the B word all hell breaks loose.Yeh they nearly had me fightin my own bro until i thought about this a bit deeper.

So a bro can be disrespected but can't give it backyeh? Nah man fix up it don't work like that. Nuff respect keep on fightin you got em on da run. Peace

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@jokesonyou

Thank you for your support, it's reassuring to know that there is intelligent Black life on this website. You are right of course, they are on the run because they are just automatons. They can only do what their programming will allow.

When they hear Brothers like us talking they respond like the computer that's asked a question it's not programmed to answer, it goes "insufficient data" and explodes lol!Well that's what you see here. They go on about "knowledge this" and "teach that" but they know nothing.

They don't have the mental resources toevaluate anew idea. So they get angry and try to hide their shame by taking the moral high ground and crying 'oh you swore you’re a bad person'.

They remind me of the sociologist Malcom X described in his autobiography. Of this sociologist he said: - “Here wasone of those BlackPhD’s who never understood the true purpose of education. That it should beapplied creatively to problem solving. This was a stagnant education only used to parade a lot of big words around."

Many here are clearly not mis/educated to PhD level but seem to think they are the font of all wisdom. YehWoteva!

Let the little boys play in the Women’s Forum.Most Black Men have training/studying to do.

@ijexa

Humph! I may well have got a good slapping, dealt fromdistance mind you. Let she/heor maybe you meet me right here and let's fight it out. But I suppose you stand to loose too much face. Well never mind you can always change your login details after youv've been blasted back into the little girls forum!

ower

@ijexa

Aahh diddums! Can give it but can't take it? You started it pal, nobody was messin with you. You chose to push up.

I'm not trying to win any converts. Just getting my thoughts out. Brothers far cleverer than you are already out there and speaking the same language as I speak. There's nothing you can do about it!

So you'd better ask a repsonsible adult to teach you what your brain is for. That way next time you hear sense and truth it might not make you feel so inadequate.

By the way when I said fight I didn't mean a physical fight. As much as I don't like your type I put my energy into blasting away at a far cannier and bigger foe than you.

I'm waiting for the rest of your cohorts to dredge something up in response to what i've said about them. I eagerly anticipate destroying the feeble minded ramblings to come. Over to you!

ower

@Native_son

I have noticed a pattern with you, when you feel you are not getting the attention you think you deserve in one thread. You start another, different title, but the same subject.

You rant and rave, but what really is your point?

You seem to think you are a soldier in a one man army. You obviously enjoylistening to the sound of you own voice, but this is a discussion forum. If someone has given you beef in another thread, respond, don't run and start another thread, what's that about? If you have somethng to say to someone have the courtesy to mention them by name. So they can respond and stop behaving like a little girl. Geez

@Ijexa & Camille

What do you want meto say, that I'll meet you in the park so we can fight, you big man/woman you?I'm not doubting that you'd turn up. But Iwouldn't want to waste the life of another Black person over a silly quarrel in chat room ;-) But obviously attacking other Blacks is something you do.If you want to fight Black peoplestart with Camille. Youand Cammilecan get together and slug it out in between doughnuts and pop. When your done you can bothdraw a picture of the event for your white teacher at school tomorrow. In crayon of course.

ower

Ps. until i'm booted offI'm going to write as many posts as I can. Each one is going to be more scathing about the likes of Ijexa and Camille. So check in regularly or enter the fray. You'll get lessons in how to drop fools!

@Nativeson. Bro. I iniitially posted to make some comments on Winstone Sillcott,but man you've totally distracted and sorry to say my man disappointed me, by some of the antics I read here.

You and I and Camilie had a very interesting and I think mutually enligtening discussion on the Sleepwalkers thread. You started all guns blazing, but we ended up having a very good discussion. If I am correct Camilie not only contributed in a positive way, but more importantly affirmed much of what you said.

Given some of the things you said, and I don't know the sister in terms of lenght of time, but for real she showed serious serious integrity and character. Not only to seriously consider your point, but to come back and given nuff respect to what you were saying.

My brother I don't know what has gone on, but man liked you have flipped, and dissing the same sister who showed you respect that many would not even have pissed on you after your comments and came back and gave you constructive comments.

Now you want to offer people out?. If you had not disrupted my flow indirectly I may have come to this "offering people out business" by making my point about Sillcott et al. Bro let me be straight with you. If you want to be a serious solidier,you go to learn to chill your shit. Seriously. What is this need to prove what...?

My brother, I would have told you something about the man you are hailing like a god, which would show you how serious disciplined commmitted soldiers operate. And why Silcott was nothing but a thug and a nasty little bully who preyed on weak black people, until he became a saint by good deed in that act.

A solider my friend is nothing like the hooligan and infantile behaviour you are demonstrating right now.

Homeboy, you would not make a day in any team of mine. What are you looking to draw that kind of attention on yourself, or by extension your brothers and comrades. Soldiers are low key my man, low key. If you saw me you would think butter would not melt in my mouth or any of my senior guys, or close circles who are no pussys' my friend. Why. Hooligan, wannabees or thugs will never a solidier make. Get me.....You don't go around the place ofering people out here, or anywhere because you betray and demonstrate a weak and needy mentality..

Fred

@FredBlack

When I first read your post I intended to respondas I have to Ijexa and Camille. But for you I'll hold back. For now. Maybe you need to look at the provocation I have received before you condemn me. I suggest you read all of the responses I've, had (if you can make sense of them). In fact perhaps you can explain them to me as I'm not fluent in Jibberish.

As I said to Ijexa/ujoker or whateva LOL, I didn't mean a phsyical confrontation. I merely invited Ijexa and others who got so annoyed at what I had to say to confront me in this forum with their grievances. This was your approach and I had hoped you found our exchanges, at leastin some small way rewarding.

When I scan the the forums on this site and I see people clearly referring to me, (not by name mind you)then I'm going to fire back -end of. If they had the courage of their convivtions they would meet me in the forum where I'm to be found and debate.

But as I've said you need to be an independent/thinking person for that and if all youv'e ever done is parrot whatyou heard some other joker say,you won't have the tools to deal with the likes of me.

As for being excluded from your team. :-) Wow that's a big one. That hurts me man LOL! Look since your such a Knight in Shining amour, ifI polish my armour can I join then? Nah probably not. LOL

And then there was . . . ?

ower

@ FredBlack

My sentiments exactly. Thankyou!

@Native_son

I'm not going to respond in the way that you obviously want. It would seem that it is not someone in agreement with you that you are seeking, you clearlyrevel in the confrontation of some disagreeing with you, you thrive on it, this gives fuel to your 'man against the world' nonsense. Like any person filled with hate, you love painting yourself the martyr. You are ignorant and offensive. Good luck to you. I 've said my peace!

@Nativeson. My brother you are either serious in the things you say, and want people to take you seriously or you're not and your just playing and getting off.

Further to your feisty comments:

"As for being excluded from your team. :-) Wow that's a big one. That hurts me man LOL! Look If I polish my armour can I join then? Nah probably not. LOL"


Hey bro.When you talk about solidiers like Malcolm X and others I seen you mention, or refer to directly or indirectly. I trust you know those brothers were selected, trained ,deployed, organised and accountable to somoeone. NO?

Those brothers and that process of being accountable is not unique to Malcom etc. But I am sure you know all radicals/soldiers of our movement whether in UNIA, Panthers, SWAPO, ANC, PAC, NJAC, MPLA/FAPLA etc and the long history of radical organisations in this country, that some strata of black men were responsible for producing those solidiers, organising and leading them. I am sure you will accept that?

So what makes you so presumptious or knowledable to assume that I would have no grounds to say you would not get into any team of mine, with that mentality; and furthermore such a comment would deserve your humour?. Do you know something I am not aware of...?

My brother if you are hailing Winston Sillcott et al as great solidiers, god help you the day serious disciplined brothers land and pull up to your drive way, or appear in front of you. For real. In fact as we say the first time you realise their presence it would probably be too late as your arse would be tied up in some garage out in the middle of knowhere. Trust me stranger shit has been known to happen.

Sorry brother, missed an important opportunity to extend yourself. Next time you see your stand in Commander in Chief George Sillcott, ask him how did he get that scar running from the left of his ear running right under his chin and coming up via the other side. Lucky we didn't cut his head off clean and put it in a bag to bring home for his mummy and big brother. Send my love to ugly George.

A crying foolish young man can be quite touching on a human level so a warning is often suffice as he looks up to his brother who was our real interest...After they set fire to a black famiy home and almost kill a whole decent family in their sleep over foolishness.

You don't get a mob to attack a skinny little bespectable brother who couldn't harm a fly and look like the stereotype computer geek or boffin. Final straw.

Problem is. Good solidiers always know who they're playing with, how they are hooked up, mobbed up or whatever. Bad bad move when you harm one of the most outstanding and committed radical soldiers of his generation. Harm the community brothers can hold fire to a degree, harm one of our leaders. Well.....?

You're a kid son and acting like one. If you look up to thugs and little bullies, which is what they are until they got lucky. Fate chooses some weird heroes and God never ceases to amaze. In fact fate probably saved big brother's Sillcotts life. When you harm certain people, lessons, serious lesson must and will be made...


Fred