I know for a fact some men come out the womb no damn good, regardless of their family or environment.

But do you think some women are born wicked and ruthless, or isbad experiences with certain men in thier lives(dad, brother, boyfriend, ect..) almost always the culprit?

Is it learned behavior on their part?

OK I'm not 100% convinced that some men are born bad but I guess thats not the main topic here (although if you could prove that 'FACT' I'd be pretty interested!)

I think its most definitley experiences that make people who they are and black women are no exception. Even in the playground at primary school there were differences that could only have been formed through experience. Traits such as spitefulness, vindictiveness and general bad-min' were not present in all the little girls in the playground.

Its even to do with what you witness. See an older brotherracing adifferent girl up to his roomevery weekor that uncle that brings a new woman to every family function...it all registers and its no wonder many women refuse to be 'THAT GIRL!' The results is theyre a bit harder on the brothas!

(p.s. I've also bought up a similar topic on the Womens Forum - Black Girls + Absent Fathers = ??? Check it out)

Not happy with this topic Omaar.

I think it's time to call an end to this type of thing.

If you wanted a basic nature versus nurture debate on the personality of people then word it that way.

I think BN is growing weary of men vs women stuff. Didn't expect you to kickstart one of these things.

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Hmmm? Typical 'community'.

Subhanallah brother Omaar, I cant believe your actually discussing this.

"are some women born wicked...?"

Of course not. Nobody is born wicked, male or female. You should know that brother as a muslim. Everyone that is created and born in this world is created in the state of fitrah and innocence. No indivudual is born wicked or evil, its the society/enviroment that destroys the heart and mind of an individual (with the help of shaytan). To suggest that a new born female has an ouch of wickedness inside her soul is just down right stupid bro. Thats jahilayah type thinking!

Its extreme versions of that mentality which result in baby girls getting killed, dumped at birth, buried alive (as they used too back in the days) etc....

If you honestly even believe what you wrote just there bro, then I suggest you go back and read the quran.

Its can be linked to traits..... IMO think also that genetics can also affect the behaviour of humans in general... I mean even children who are innocent can do wicked things and laugh at it without realising, if its a bad thing or not, whilst another child just seats their and cryconfused3.....

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I think some of you are a bit hypocritical.

I've seen you whip up 6 pages in one day on bullshit threads that degrade women and make absolutely no sense.

How Long Does It Take For U To Cum When Ur Drunk

Why Do Pretty Women Act So Ugly

If You Kick A Woman's Ass And She Doesn't Cry Are U Still Harming Her


But a legitimat question about human nature is somehow offensve and unacceptable?

Sorry, I just don't have the maturity to understand that type of logic.

But understand that I'm a grown ass man, I don't need hypocrites telling what and what isn't acceptable to talk about.


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Forgot to add that personally I don't believe women (or the vast majority atleast) are born bad or ruthless. Reason being, they don't have the chemistry and hormones that give them that type of ambition and callousness.

Every woman I've ever met who was scandelous and cold-blooded...and I've met plenty...seemed to have learned that behavior from either growing up around abusive men or was turned out by a thuggish man.

Usually her anger and bitterness if fueled by drugs and/or alcohol.

There's no problem with males and females on this site.

It's only 2 or 3 trouble makers who have a problem with black men in general and are basically trying to manipulate and turn us on eachother.


It's the same trouble makers in every thread crying about "white women" this and "black men" that. They diss black men all day long but when black men diss back...they can't handle it and try to manipulate OTHER black men into helping them.

In my opinion, if you get rid of these handful of troublemakers the problem will be solved.


Now will you guys stop jacking this "on point" thread and let us get on with the topic?

Salaam brothers Omaar and Durrah.

I have to agree with Durrah on this one, no one is born wicked or evil, all that is bullshit. In my opinion everyone is a product of their environment and experiences.

More times than not if a person is brought up around negativity/positivity that person will for the most part become that. Of course there's always exceptions to the rule.

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BlackMatta wrote: Dunno why this topic is in the mens forum and about women only?

Because I'm not interested in hearing why a man is born bad or whatturns him bad, I already know most of the reasons.

This thread is about why some women are bad and behave the way they do.






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Salaam brothers Omaar and Durrah.

I have to agree with Durrah on this one, no one is born wicked or evil, all that is bullshit. In my opinion everyone is a product of their environment and experiences.

More times than not if a person is brought up around negativity/positivity that person will for the most part become that. Of course there's always exceptions to the rule.

Salaam

I agree with this also, but I don't like how Durrah approached me with his condescending attitude of condemnation. This isn't an Islamic website for promoting strictly Islamic ideas. Just because we feel a certain way as Muslims, doesn't mean we can't listen to other people's opinions and ideals on life.

Besides, when people are bashing Islam in up in the religious section and other forums he's no where to be found...what gives him the right to think he can come out and attack another Muslim?

Yeah Omaar I agree no muslims should be attacking another one on this forum, we can disagree in a civil manner. It's bad enough we get attacked up in the religious section constantly as if that's not enough.

This is why the Muslim Ummah is slowly disintegrating. We have to be as one. Let's all just take a chill pill.

Salaam.