The BN Village  
Home Register FAQ Members Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Welcome to the African and Caribbean Social network.

You are currently are in guest mode which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access other features. By joining this free African Caribbean Social utility you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), upload images, add videos, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, join the African and Caribbean community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Go Back   The BN Village > Welcome to The Black Forum - The Black net Village > Black Mens Village
Reload this Page REAL TALK: How the hell did HIV became a black persons disease???

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
imported post
(#1 (permalink))
Old
Black_Power's Avatar
Black_Power is Online
Villager Senior
Black_Power
 
Posts: 2,610
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Birmingham
Post imported post - 19-09-06, 12:23 PM

25 years ago this thing was found primarily in gay white men...now its primarily in the black community particularly in black women.

Is it just me or does this NOT make any frigging sense whatsoever?
How come NO ONE is questioning why or how?

How does a disease jump from one demographic to another (SKIPPING OVER white women mind you)?

If a disease that was primarily found in gay black men suddenly started infecting hetero white women in huge numbers there would be congressional hearings, exposes' and funded scientific investigations into finding out:

HOW this happened...
WHO is responsible...
and HOW can you send it BACK (not stem it or eradicate it but put it BACK into its original population).

Yet so far it seems to me that all we get is stats and numbers that don't add up and its accepted.




Only the best is good enough....
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement Sponsored links

imported post
(#2 (permalink))
Old
Engineer's Avatar
Engineer is Online
Villager
Engineer is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 749
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Murderous, United Kingdom
Post imported post - 19-09-06, 12:37 PM

Back in the 70’s some U.S president said that they wanted 3 billion off the planet. Because people in the third world out number the ones in the first world. Some say HIV in a manufactured germ engineered in a U.S lab. They spread it all over Africa via the pre-text of helping to eradicate small pox in Africa??



You known which newspaper that ran the story, it was an Indian paper!!


shizzle my bizzle of all people…



"There is No Wealth like Knowledge, No poverty like ignorance." University of Sankore ,Timbuktu.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#3 (permalink))
Old
Backatya is Offline
BNV Managing Editor
Backatya is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 3,480
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 19-09-06, 01:27 PM

@ Black_Power

I must commend you for asking a question which I have often wondered, "Has this even crossed the mind of most black people to ask?"

The many debates/discussions I have got into on the "Aids phenomenon" have,more oftenthan not,left me bemused and bewildered (and somewhat frustrated). As a consequence I nowtend to avoid them becauseof finding myself having to deal with a 'conditioned perspective' (i.e. black peoples) rather than a serious desire to get to the truth (and the bottom) of this whole 'Aids in Africa' thing.

There is a lot about Aids which "does not add up", but how far or deep one is prepared to look into the "why doesn't it add up" is another matter.

I shall delay contributing, and watch this thread's development with interest tosee if my cynicism (borne out of many a frustrated discussion) proves itself to be well founded once again.

Respect



There are those who feel that the only way to ‘prove their own worth’ is by ‘devaluing the worth of others’. You will often find that a man who is compelled to measure his substance against the substance of another, has little of substance in the first place!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#4 (permalink))
Old
DtotheJ is Online
Villager Senior
DtotheJ
 
Posts: 3,160
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: , New Jersey, USA
Post imported post - 19-09-06, 02:58 PM

BT, Originally american media reported AIDS as being more likely to affect the 4 Hs..

homsexuals, hemophiliacs, haitians, and I forget what the last h was...

Many people at the time didn't beleive that aids was real....and didn't feel they belonged to any of the at-risk groups...so they continued dangerous sexual habits(that, even if aids didn't exist, exposed them to STDs)

instead of protecting themselves....they felt safe because in their minds it didn't have anything to do with THEM......


The black clergy, initially buried their heads in sand over the issue....saying it was a curse from god......





Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#5 (permalink))
Old
Peacemaker is Offline
Banned
Peacemaker
 
Posts: 4,174
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hathersage, Derbyshire
Post imported post - 19-09-06, 03:08 PM

Black_Power wrote:
Quote:
25 years ago this thing was found primarily in gay white men...now its primarily in the black community particularly in black women.

Is it just me or does this NOT make any frigging sense whatsoever?
How come NO ONE is questioning why or how?

How does a disease jump from one demographic to another (SKIPPING OVER white women mind you)?

If a disease that was primarily found in gay black men suddenly started infecting hetero white women in huge numbers there would be congressional hearings, exposes' and funded scientific investigations into finding out:

HOW this happened...
WHO is responsible...
and HOW can you send it BACK (not stem it or eradicate it but put it BACK into its original population).

Yet so far it seems to me that all we get is stats and numbers that don't add up and its accepted.
Quote:
Judging by that then I can think of two things.
Quote:
Lots more people have than they're letting on, i.e white people, especially the women. Considering that they seem to be the most sexually active group out there would suggest that they have got it in greater numbers than are reported.
Quote:
Or perhaps the wholevirusis exaggerated because in my whole lifetime I've only met one person with HIV. She was going out with this lad for 2 years and he somehow magically didn't contract it in that time....theyare white by the way.


I would say this, if you wanted to spread something around the world effectively, you'd have to keep the main method of it being spread a secret, so it's probably the people who you'd typically thinkwouldn'thave it, that have for the most part. "If" it exists in the way that it has been reported. WhichI have my doubts about.

Personally I find it hard to believe that Europe and the America's isn't suffering with thevirus as much as Africa is now.

As for asI can see it's the Europeans that shag anything that moves so they should be the ones with the "problem".



Not much about HIV and AIDS adds up at all.. I will say it's a virus that seems to help keep certain African nations distracted and in poverty.Typically when people are more concerned about theirhealth they have little time to do or think about anything else.



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement Sponsored links

imported post
(#6 (permalink))
Old
ChubbiChix is Offline
Villager Senior
ChubbiChix
 
Posts: 1,362
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Queens, New York, USA
Send a message via AIM to ChubbiChix
Post imported post - 19-09-06, 04:55 PM

That is a good question, before only gay whites, dope fiends and a few haitians had it now its an epidemic for blacks all over the world over a pretty short period of time. To me it sounds like a conspiracy to wipe out a large number of blacks internationally.


To believe is to have doubt and no facts but to know is to have facts and no doubt.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#7 (permalink))
Old
Saida.M's Avatar
Saida.M is Offline
Super Moderator
Saida.M is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 3,963
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: U nited K lansmen
Post imported post - 19-09-06, 07:19 PM

This conspiracy is old - I'm surprised no-one is saying so.

I remember approximately nine years ago, emailing a supposed AIDS 'help' website asking very similar questions.

One of them was how if a monkey, (note the singular), was infected that ANENTIRE CONTINENT is seemingly contaminated?

That was where they said AIDS stem from, (yep thatwas the preposterous theory back then - probably still is).

Thefinal question I asked was,why then didHIV not occur much sooner considering the MILLIONS of years Africa has been in existence?


The emails were going back and fourth pretty quick each one getting smashed by me. Then I asked thatlast one.



They still have not replied.





Lol.







Yu tink se me dun but me na dun!

"One of the heads of the beast seemed to have been fatally wounded, but the wound had healed. The whole earth was amazed and followed the beast".

Good News Bible. Rev. Ch.13 V.3
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#8 (permalink))
Old
DtotheJ is Online
Villager Senior
DtotheJ
 
Posts: 3,160
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: , New Jersey, USA
Post imported post - 19-09-06, 07:36 PM

People are right nt to trust what government tells you BUT..you have to do other things to educate yourself about what the true reality is....

Government mentioned marginalized, stigmatized groups at first..so no tmany people outside of those groups cared....how the virus seemed to be linked to specific groups like that...

by not caring.."oh it's only gays and Haitians"..... people set themselves up for what's happened over the past 20 years...... namely the spread of this killer.......

Another example of short term thinking by our so called leadership.

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#9 (permalink))
Old
MarcusGarveyLives is Offline
Excluded
MarcusGarveyLives
 
Posts: 4,363
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 19-09-06, 09:52 PM

This may assist you: (warning site is accompanied by music)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#10 (permalink))
Old
MarcusGarveyLives is Offline
Excluded
MarcusGarveyLives
 
Posts: 4,363
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 19-09-06, 09:54 PM

... as might this: HIV/AIDS The Untold Story (warning - site is accompanied by music)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#11 (permalink))
Old
ChubbiChix is Offline
Villager Senior
ChubbiChix
 
Posts: 1,362
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Queens, New York, USA
Send a message via AIM to ChubbiChix
Post imported post - 20-09-06, 04:24 AM

Quote:
It seems like everything from AIDS to heart dieases affects blacks disportionately. Everything bad seems to affect us the most from mental to physical problems. I just read in the news paper that said black women get more yeast infections and vaginitis then white women. I was like god damn.



To believe is to have doubt and no facts but to know is to have facts and no doubt.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#12 (permalink))
Old
Aryek's Avatar
Aryek is Offline
Villager Senior
Aryek
 
Posts: 2,525
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 22-09-06, 06:51 PM

Good post.

This question has always baffled me. I don't know when AIDS became an African problem. When I living inGhana in the early 90's, AIDS was a Western disease. I remember hearing all these reports on CNN about the AIDS epidemic in America and howI wouldlisten tothe eldest express concern about Western diseases coming to the continent. I've never agreed with these theories of some African becoming infected with Aids by eating or sleeping with a monkey. If that were the case then how the hell did gay white men from half way across the world become it's first victims? I know full well that the problem already existed in the West before it became an African problem.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!