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Default Black People & The Media - 25-08-07, 02:02 AM

Its is quite apparent that Black people don't get a good deal from the media.
Its over 100 days off uninterrupted coverage of Madeline disappearance. But would a Black or Asian family get the same coverage.
I'm not saying there case shouldn't have as much coverage as possible but there should be some equality.

Likewise the terrible case of the boy shot in liverpool by a boy on a Bmx bike sounds similar to the boy shot in Stockwell by boys on bikes. One had Sky News broadcasting live from the scene the next day...the other......??

I've also wonder how the news agency pick their news stories.

It angers me that nothing is taken seriousily until it happens to a white person. I know people will say it is expected but I would like to think things could be different.
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Default 25-08-07, 08:47 AM

The 'white media'operates on the basis of racism (properly known as White Supremacy).

If you do not know what raciism is, then everything else that you think that you know will only confuse you.

Support African media instead.
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Default Motion Seconded - 25-08-07, 10:20 AM

Have to agree in every way with MGL. I don't particularly like broad terms like white supremacy because it often confuses more than it elaborates on. But if there is one institution where this concept clearly applies is the media and it is raw and you don't have to be too bright to see that black is consistently depicted as bad and white as better whether by default or overtly. Check this I was telling my wife just check these US sitcoms and the ones she likes and look how the black woman is portrayed. They are either never our most attractive women or any who can test the main white female lead and they are usually raw ,aggressive and loud to make the white gal more desirable.

This example took place about a month ago teaching a group of criminologist consisting of police graduates as well. We had just been talking about the media and its impact on the perceptions of crime and how it distorted crime and who the real criminals are, and plays into the party political system etc etc. As the class ended I told my students to make sure they watched any of the many fact based crime or policed based programmes on TV such as Crime Watch etc so we could continue the discussion in the next seminar.

A couple of days later, I was working in my study while the TV was on and I really had no idea what was on because I was working. I took a break and swung around in my chair to see what was on the TV and lo and behold Crimewatch just came on and would you believe it the first three crime segments all featured black men and one sick case in particular where some creep had broken into an old people's home and had sex with some almost comotosed old woman. But that is not the point. After that there was no other segment involving black people or black men.

When my class came around again and I checked that students had watched the TV which they had and somebody mentioned CrimeWatch. I asked the class, and this is pure whites and about 10 cops amongst them, what is the statistical probability that three black men would appear in a selection of randomly chosen TV segments considering the black population eg AFrican and African-Caribbean do not even make 2.7 of the population, but yet were the first three opening clips in a programme with a potential coverage of 63. 5 million people. All of the white students said that the probability of that happening if chosen randomly is almost nil....Further they said the only explanation that can be given is that the editor or someone consciously chose and selected those images.

The next statement I made was how much did any student want to bet me if I got onto the phone to any of my many contacts within the national police service and phoned the Crime Desk and ask them for offences that took place in the week or two prior the showing of CrimeWatch I would get nuff far more disturbing cases involving whites than the three chosen to start that Crimwatch opening with. Not one student disagreed with me and one female cop told me just the other day they dealt with a very nasty crime involving a white male which was far shocking than anything the black males did. In fact the two other incidents involving black males were for robbery which in the world of serious policing is a joke business.

I rest my case.
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Default 25-08-07, 12:43 PM

In fact this topic has been addressed previously on a number of times on this messageboard, but most of the previious discussions are probably buried beneath a flood of spam about penis size, breast size, photographs of half naked African women, bogus premise threads and general rubbish.

The following articles may therefore help:

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In fact this topic has been addressed previously on a number of times on this messageboard, but most of the previious discussions are probably buried beneath a flood of spam about penis size, breast size, photographs of half naked African women, bogus premise threads and general rubbish.

The following articles may therefore help:

Artilce One

Article Two

Article Three

Article Four
Thanks for the lionks MGL - Interesting - Do you know of any books on the subject?

Also wonder about marketing - we know that the media is racist. But is the target audience racist in the marketing world.
Would having a black or Asain guy driving the new BMW etc effect sales.?
Would the average BMW driver not deemed the car suitable because a non-white is advertisng it?

When I look at a product I look at the qualities rather than who is advertising it?
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Default 26-08-07, 12:17 PM

Another perspective on media white supremacy (from an unlikely source?)

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Thanks for the lionks MGL - Interesting - Do you know of any books on the subject?

Also wonder about marketing - we know that the media is racist. But is the target audience racist in the marketing world.
Would having a black or Asain guy driving the new BMW etc effect sales.?
Would the average BMW driver not deemed the car suitable because a non-white is advertisng it?

When I look at a product I look at the qualities rather than who is advertising it?
It's well known in magazine publishing that putting a black woman on the cover of Elle, Vogue, Marie Claire and the like has an immediate and negative impact on sales, which is why it so rarely happens. The only possible exceptions these days (and they are not necessarily) might be Beyonce and Naomi Campbell; prior to them, it was virtually unheard of.

Furthermore, advertising (especially TV advertising) relies fundamentally on stereotypes, and to some extent it has to in order to get the message across in a crowded market - it's all about impact and memorability. So it matters to advertisers a lot exactly what and who is shown doing what. And if you buy any heavily-promoted major consumer branded product, you are buying into that process whether you like it or not. So at least know that. In a culture where we are both a numerical minority and pathologised, it is futile IMO to expect big-time advertisers to do anything other than what most currently do.

I'd say that 'African media' can sometimes bring a different set of problems (Pride, The Voice) but that's changing with the growing importance of the Internet as a marketing tool, especially for under-35s. There is plenty of potential to do good stuff, and it's happening - both for those who want to sell to our own, and for those who want to sell to everyone.


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The problem I have with the media is that black people are not shown in a more broader prospective. The media displayes most images of black people as athletes and entertainers. So when young people see these images they want the nice houses, jewelry and cars and there is nothing wrong with that. But black people are also teachers, doctors, lawyers, scientist and entrepreneus. We need to see those images too so that our young people can be inspired to pursue whatever path or career choice they decide to take.
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wink 16-10-07, 08:39 PM

I agree with most of what has been written..we need to have a wider range of media products covering broader subject areas a bit of this and that for everyone because if you notice some of the current Black mags are so glossy they can be accused of overt prejudice you very well know the types they put on their cover all that 'good hair'


one will need a bigger lie to cover the first one
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The problem I have with the media is that black people are not shown in a more broader prospective. The media displayes most images of black people as athletes and entertainers. So when young people see these images they want the nice houses, jewelry and cars and there is nothing wrong with that. But black people are also teachers, doctors, lawyers, scientist and entrepreneus. We need to see those images too so that our young people can be inspired to pursue whatever path or career choice they decide to take.
same with black media too, it seems they are struggling to get 'normal' people, (almost) everything is centred around entertainers,sportsmen and so on.

the voice and co can do more especially in cases like that boy killed in Stockwell.


anyone know of Black tv station in UK apart from passion, O.B.E and B.E.N?


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Default tit 4 tat - 17-10-07, 01:33 AM

theres nothing wrong with showing white criminals on black newspapers is there?
these white papers are happy to print pictures of black criminals (i dont have a problem with this by the way), but most black papers will never show racist or white criminals (esp those that target black people)


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same with black media too, it seems they are struggling to get 'normal' people, (almost) everything is centred around entertainers,sportsmen and so on.

the voice and co can do more especially in cases like that boy killed in Stockwell.


anyone know of Black tv station in UK apart from passion, O.B.E and B.E.N?


Passion TV Channel 169 Passion TV - The cradle of creativity

The Africa Channel is also in the UK now Welcome to the Africa Channel!


colourtelly.tv - Britain's Online Black-Interest Television Channel internet only




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