I guess there is.

Particularly when the phrase "all you" takes away the need to be specific.

Thing is, it isn't just under 25s unfortunately. I went on a date recently with an older guy and knew it wasn't going to go anywhere because we had absolutely nothing in common. When he asked me when we were going out again, I said, 'I think we are so different, it would be a waste of both of our time'. He proceeded (in the restaurant) to call me a snooty bitch and that I should just go and find a white man.

Exactly.

Apologies if I offended anyone with the analogy, I was just trying to make an example.
This though is one reason you see us women walking down the street with our faces all vex looking. Imagine coming out of Marks and Spencers in Brixton and getting hissed at, then cussed as you walk by for not stopping.

Then as you cross the road a man tells you you look nice, now because my granny raised me right, I'll say thank you.. Then he starts following you telling you what and what he wants to do to you, so you ignore him and keep on stepping, then you hear something like, you think you're too nice, you're just an ugly blah blah blah
Then as you pass Woolworths, some old man is calling you 'darta' telling you you look strong and how he needs a young girl like dat.

Now by the time you get to the end of the road, all you want is to be left the hell alone, and any pleasant look I had on my face would be gone. If the potential love of my life came up to me at that time, I'd miss the boat because I'd be completely uninterested.

I would also say it has got worse over the last 3 years or so. I just don't remember this type of behaviour before.

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Salsagal what you doing to this men lol!!.....One thing i have increasingly come to accept is i can only speak for myself and just because i have certain standards or conduct myself in a certain manner i shouldn't really expect every black man to be like me because end of the day we just a bunch of individuals and how you raised really shapes you ....as i alluded before it does happen!!....can't say its all brothas but i think increasingly some brothas think they some sort of playa since this image is played up media,videos,music...with the older guys you would think with their 'maturity' they would be better at handling business ...
This imaging and posturing is something we need to lose its just no good ..if there was one endearing thing about Brian in BB was his cool demeanour and old fashioned attitude towards women ...as Babyface sang whatever happened to Chivalry?that needs to come back real quick..

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A better question maybe why is it so hard for black women to accept compliments?????

Tell you a very recent incident @work its a huge place loads of employees Depts its one of those places where its refreshing seeing brothas and sistas becasuse its not easy for us getting into this places e.t.c....as it goes during a tea break saw this two sistas i acknowledged one of them its just one of those things when you both click..well end of working day surprise surprise she sat opposite me on the tube first she glanced at me and maybe she expected me to do something i don't know looked at her to have some sort of conversation but the her body language was all wrong not even a smile so i just faced my newspaper...why the front? the attitude?..reason why i laugh when our women bang on about the lack of decent men some do need to change their attitude..not every black man is willing to put up with it we work harder 'cos we more conspicuous and even though i'm not a big fan of IR i UNDERTSTAND!!
Having said that the next day saw a sista from a different firm having a cig smiled at her and she smiled back that was all no biggie!!...but enuff sistas just need to relax exhale...
As i mentioned we have so many things wrong that have been internalized that needs to be sorted before we even think of bringing YT into the equation...

The thing is though, that approach must be working on some women or else they would've stopped by now! lol!
I know what you mean, when I hear my brothers moan about rude women etc... I can't relate because I'm not a rude person. If someone says you look nice, a smile and a thank you is just manners imo. Problem is some men take it as a sign of more and so women don't respond then get classed as miserable, it's a cycle.

@salsaqueen

I know theres a thin line between love and hate and a finer thread with say if i acknowledge this dude would he think i'm so into him?..but women through history have cultivated different means of handling this amorous suitors theres always the uncomfortable silences...fake cell nos .e.t.c e.t.c...
That is another thing that bugs me our women want a thug lover yet complain about the adverse effects of this image ...i guess we all victims but we must be able to decipher whats a good approach and one to wave off with a smile its pure human instinct at the end of the day...
After alls been said and done its pure animal instincts you see someone nice you acknowledge or flirt hence why women are women and men are men..its when it gets overbearing thats when it becomes an issue

melissa
someone should be happy to accept COMPLIMENTS
but not abuse, when refusing to buy a CD, for example
maybe abuse is cool in your world
i am not talking about ppl being friendly, i'm talking about a women refusing an advance and getting insulted

in reponse to having an attitude, your opinion on mine, if it is directed at me in particular where u desribe my "push up face" and so on would only be valid if it was actually based on the fact that you knew me in person otherwise how exactly can you know how i conduct myself in that situation? Or did you mean an 'attitude' in general terms

@astamartins

Women don't want thugs. Immature girls do!

what would you say is overbearing?

i have heard this women want thugs notion before from guys. I don't know if i have ever actually heard a female friend of mine actually express that desire. Maybe as Salsaqueen says it younger girls who want that.
I think that desire for a thug is a fantastical ideal, created by music lyrics, films and music videos coupled with the idea of a thug "getting money". But in real life terms the appeal (if any) of a thug would deminished with all of the BS attached to his lifestyle

You know what Wifeable, I have heard it from some of my friends' mouth and seen it in their actions. What they are looking for a Jay-z type figure, who has the rough and readiness of the streets but has business acumen and knows how to work his money to his best advantage. I cuss them about it all the time, because I see nice guys approach them, and watch them cut him off cause he's 'boring'. I watch their eyes pass over certain guys and go straight for the one everyone is looking at. *kissing my teeth*

Then they come in my earhole talking about 'no good black men'.
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