I agree that Colorism has been present for thousands of years before Europe was formally developed. However, let's not look at it as if "white" people didn't exist before the advent of Europe. The Indo-European has made his mark from China to Europe-proper. All of Asia was inhabited by migrant Africans. The first dynasties of China and the first civilization of India were by a migrant East (Ethiopic) and South African people. Even the Ganges River is named after an Ethiopian general. The only reason there are lighter peoples in those parts of the world and the Middle East is due to the expansion of Indo-Europeans destroying Classical Black Civilizations to supplant them with societies of White Supremacy. This is evident across China, India, Babylon, Perthia, and other ancient societies. The most pronounced evidence of the White Supremacist culture of Indo-Europeans is the Hindu cast system in India with "whites" placed on the top and the "blacks" outcasted from society.

East Asians have phenotypically evolved into something different from Indo-Europeans and Semites, but they are the product of the same union between the expanding psychopathic "white" Indo-European mixing with migrant Africans. The only difference is that these were migrant Africans of the Southern African type, which is how East Asians inherited their facial bone structure, eye shape, and so forth.

Blaze, i am aware of how great our music is, but i'd rather say WAS because what those mongrels are producing now is no less than soft **** palava. The words are disgusting, full of sexist inuendos and the whole music market seem to be simply dominated by MEN only. It has gotten to the point that the male singers are singing songs that are plainly ladies only.

I haven't got much time to get into this, so i'll keep it short. What used to be the most popular and influential music genre of its time has been going downhill in the past 20 years or so. Since the death of Franco and the dismantling of Ok Jazz group, Zaiko and the death of Pepe Kale, most of what Congolese musician produced was nothing short of Bad POP with African beats. up untill the late 80s most of them had to behave a little because Mobutu would simply lock them up if they were singing bastiality or sex infused rhytms. But after a while even he gave up and actually realised that it worked in his favour as a dictator if the population were brainwashed and dumbed down with the diatribe that these mongrels were passing out as music.

Papa Wemba became more a fashion whore than the great musician he was supposed to be and Koffi Olomide decided to revamp his image by turning into a transexual middle aged monkey who parades women around like pieces of meat. At the same time singing the most pathetic lyrics that would make 50 pence lyrics sound like school ground sing along! MOST are just bloody explicit, i am embarrassed to hear it playing when i am in the company of older or younger people.

JAnd their stupidity doesn't end in the kind of music they produce, they also known as the most pathetic and dumb asses you can find around. Just recently, another alien looking like so called great Congolese singer, JB Mpiana, proclaimed to the world press in South Africa(of all places!) that colonialism was a great thing and that we should let white people to run things because we are simply incapable of doing it ourselves!

I saw the interview myself, but i can't find it on YouTube to post it here.

The mongrels are ****ing up a whole young generation with their over glorification of all things material, especially the love of designer clothes. The lot of them even name themselves after famous WESTERN designers like Lacoste and Ferre! (Didier Lacoste and Ferre)

And to top it of, they have managed to import to the world the idea that all Congolese people bleach and look generic! It has gotten so bad that i have a hard time convincing people about where i come from, because i do not bleach.


So please save me the old line about how great our music IS now....it used to be, but not anymore. A few, and i mean a FEW musicians and singers realese some good tunes, but their numbers are too small. Besides, most Africans are already blinded about what constitutes our music.....if it's not Koffi and them bleaching mongrels dancing around, then it's not Congolese music.

the idea of superiority of the lighter skinn has been drained into your skulls to brainwash you.
like skin.. isnt the origins of blackness. lite skin was brought on by whites through rape, and blacks intermarying. lite skin is a product of self hating blacks.

i dont hate like skinned or mixed people. but mixed and light skinned people atleast some of them have a superiority complex especially mixed and i tell you people if mixed were acepted by whites they would'a shit on you people a long time ago. hundreds of years ago the lighter skinned slaves were favoured to work closer to the whiteman. this thing had been going on for eons. light skin inst the symbol of masuclinity to me.
what the blacks had endured. symbolises strenght. and power. that whats what the dark colour means. strenght.

your fathers were striped naked and beaten and your mothers were raped(giving birth to light skinned blacks.(which to be fair aint thier fault and i dont fault them) and your fathers were also raped too believe it or not by light skinned arabs and whitemen. the endurance your father's endured made them more masculine in my eyes than some cockney whip carrying whitebwoy who had the edge because he had the weapon. thats that. think of it whateva you will.

First things first....let's stop arguing amongst ourselves over things that boil down to the white man's whim..

we are all from colonized areas....either on the continent or former slave colonies....
the language we speak, whether or not we have white blood, the borders of the country we are from...are 98% of the time things that were determined by some white man's whim....

so let us stop FURTHER dividing ourselves over things we had little control over....


Second....after acknowledging that, let's not ACCEPT....ANYBODY trying to act superior to other Blacks...be it over skin color, country of origin,etc.etc

If we don't have this level of respect for one another and ourselves...at the very least......we cannot progress.

I dont believe that being light makes someone superior (never have), and I certainly dont believe being light makes someone less masculine. As far as the light skinned slave thing, if you look at pictures of house slaves ie Nannies, cook etc......many were dark skinned. So I really dont get that point at all. You are right, many of these biracial slaves (if not all) were the children of the slave owners.....many may have recieved better treatment than the slaves who were not their children, but they treated a damn sight worse than the other children of their fathers...ie their White half siblings. So really it depends on which way you want to look at it.
Many of them were servants/slaves to their own family members, and God only knows what happened to many of them in the house. I doubt they were all drinking egg nog on Christmas morning with the rest of the folks.....lol
Even though some may have been traeted as part of the family

I for one am not a believer that light skin originated from Whites or the slave trade, in some contexts yes, but not all. Its a White thing to say that lighter skin is due to them, the brainwashing you talk of depends on us believing that.

In reality, the spectrum of African skins is far wider than people care to admit. Besides, I would imagine that most mixed race people today are not a result of rape.
I agree, that many slaves, both light and dark endured, what most people today both light and dark could not if the truth be told. If we are going by that, then there are very few masculine man in our race then.

Many of the people who were raped were actually dark skinned women, they were not weak for being raped, and neither were their children for being the product IMO. Many of whom did not live in the house but stayed in the field, these rapist fathers hourds of children through their evil on the same plantation, how many of them do you even think they allowed into the house? I doubt it could contain them in number.

Can you really compare the experience of Black people in slavery, and how they endured, with anything you see today? We cant take credit for another persons experience. I believe it was their character and not their shade that was responsible for their strength......and the strength of any individual.

Thats my opinion. I know men who in my opinion are masculine and take what life dishes to them valiantly and bravely........some dark, some light. I also know a few who are complete failures IMO when it comes to showing the type of endurance and strength you speak of....some dark, some light.

What it boils down to is the same old divide and rule............whether it be shade, features, tribe, religion, language......it has all at one time been exploited to divide.

simple put. we still experience those things as you know. a race that has endured the unimaginable and still exist is the more tougher race. look what happened to the red indians. atleast they fought back. if im right we didnnt fight as hard as them. except the zulu's.

they are the ones that are intimidated by blackmen, they are the ones that put us as the sterotypical macho guys. the big black strong muscled man. its thier women that lust after that image. all in all they knew the power of blackmen. they deep down think we are the epitome of masculinity that why they supress o#us black men so much. thats why they scared when a handsome blackman is around their women. that to me means you are intimidated by that something you feel is more powerful than you.
thats why i think that dark skin is the epitome of maleness, they started it we didnt.

they are scared of us because we are different we are "dark" colour means everything my friend. DONT be decieved. that colour is why we are hated and why they envy us. you are envious of something you feel and know is more superior to you. thats why they dominate us and make us not accept our selfs. we are hated because of our colour.

if i knew someone was superior to me biologically or anyother way. id do everything to make him insecure and not figure out thats his more superior to me.

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@soulmachine
I think thats a cool thing you doing for your cousin...some parents are just too lazy this days to impart that knowledge well some never had it themselves!![/quote]





her mom is a coon thats why i do it. sometimes i swear ir dating females are more dangerous. for real. she dont know my identity though lol.

@ soul machine

You attach strenght and masculinity to dark skin, because the darker skinned Africans had it worse?

You base your idea of strenght on the evil strategy in white people's treatment of us. They have divided and in your case conquered.

Our men should be considered masculine and strong in their own right. Our estimation of our men should be based on our own customs and on notions of ourselves that is originally ours.

We have been kings and queens before slavery and colonialism, we were strong and proud in our own right. And we still are strong and proud in our own right without notions that spring from white mens evil treatments of us.

Africans have been light skinned and darker skinned before slavery and colonialism because we are the original people and we were a great people.

We are still light skinned and dark skinned and we still are a great people.

You sing that song!100% co sign