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Default Brothas do you accept her apology? - 11-06-08, 04:30 AM



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Default 11-06-08, 12:58 PM

I am not a guy but i still have something to say about this. This issue of feminism i think that it could be overblown and taking to much credit. My parents came over to this country when my mum was in her late teens and my dad was in his early 20's and a few years later on they got married.
I love both of my parents to bits but as the marriage progressed and as my mum became older she became stronger and less accepting of some stuff that may have annoyed her that my dad might have done.

I think today that women will stand by their men but they won’t accept rubbish either. Just how much have things really changed?
Maybe what has changed is that some parents are less likely to stay together just because of the sake of their children. When I was in my early teens my parents would say that they were just staying together for our sakes and that they would go their own separate ways when we had grown up and that is what they have done now. Their disagreements in those days were not to pretty at all.
My sister though she will not cuss her ex husband in front of her children now but don't think that women never did this years ago.

Many African women living in Africa will be there for their man but many won't accept rubbish either.

It takes two to tango i hope that woman in that youtube vid just does not think that women are to blame in all of this.

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Fair play to her
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I am not a guy but i still have something to say about this. This issue of feminism i think that it could be overblown and taking to much credit. My parents came over to this country when my mum was in her late teens and my dad was in his early 20's and a few years later on they got married.
I love both of my parents to bits but as the marriage progressed and as my mum became older she became stronger and less accepting of some stuff that may have annoyed her that my dad might have done.

I think today that women will stand by their men but they won’t accept rubbish either. Just how much have things really changed?
Maybe what has changed is that some parents are less likely to stay together just because of the sake of their children. When I was in my early teens my parents would say that they were just staying together for our sakes and that they would go their own separate ways when we had grown up and that is what they have done now. Their disagreements in those days were not to pretty at all.
My sister though she will not cuss her ex husband in front of her children now but don't think that women never did this years ago.

Many African women living in Africa will be there for their man but many won't accept rubbish either.

It takes two to tango i hope that woman in that youtube vid just does not think that women are to blame in all of this.
I agree rachie.
Once again whites are getting all the credit for all of our downfalls and setbacks, which makes Africans seem like helpless. juvenile people without the power even to be capable of having responsibility for anything, be it good or bad.

By her explanation for why some black women act the way they do, or why black women in general have the reputation from others and expectation from their own to be "loud" and "independent" then why don't white women have that same presence as a group or reputation? Especially if they're the ones that "led" black women down this path via the feminist movement. Seems like they would have it bad.
I don't buy it.


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what is the gist of her comments?

for the people who can't watch the youtube clip

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judging by the responses i have a small idea of what it's about.


and I disagree with wholesale apologies to groups of people.(with the exception being if you're in the public eye and you've made derogatory remarks/actions towards entire group)

we deal with each other as individuals and apologies should be directed at individuals..

there was a dvd a few years back called "Sister,I'm sorry' with famous and regular black guys apologizing to "black women" about the stuff they've put them through...

I thought that was garbage..and i think this youtube clip is garbage...

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what is the gist of her comments?

for the people who can't watch the youtube clip

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judging by the responses i have a small idea of what it's about.


and I disagree with wholesale apologies to groups of people.

we deal with each other as individuals and apologies should be directed at individuals..

there was a dvd a few years back called "Sister,I'm sorry' with famous and regular black gus apologizing to "black women" about the stuff they've put them through...

I thought that was garbage..and i think this youtube clip is garbage...
I don't want to watch it again but I will try to relate what I remember.
Basically she's a reformed "loudmouth" who's seen the error of her loud-mouthed ways, and realized that it's unholy and unlady-like.
She blames the loudness and the talk of independence from black women on the 1970's feminist movement which was created by white women.
She claims that black women had no reason to fight against their men as white women did because it was the white man who was an oppressive figure to their women, not the black man (ok, she had a small point there, I'll give her that).
She blames the said behavior of some black women on the white women whom they followed into the feminist abyss.
She then blurts and the end that she's an israelite who believes that the man is the head, then the women, then the children.


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I don't want to watch it again but I will try to relate what I remember.
Basically she's a reformed "loudmouth" who's seen the error of her loud-mouthed ways, and realized that it's unholy and unlady-like.
She blames the loudness and the talk of independence from black women on the 1970's feminist movement which was created by white women.
She claims that black women had no reason to fight against their men as white women did because it was the white man who was an oppressive figure to their women, not the black man (ok, she had a small point there, I'll give her that).
She blames the said behavior of some black women on the white women whom they followed into the feminist abyss.
She then blurts and the end that she's an israelite who believes that the man is the head, then the women, then the children.


Off topic but i just wanted to say you look beautiful in that pic.


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Off topic but i just wanted to say you look beautiful in that pic.
hey now well thankyou blkfirst .


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oh yeah and she blames a large number of black lesbians on 1970's feminist movement and thinks the black plight is our punishment from when God punished the israelites for following false idols (I guess she's making a comparison with black women following white women into feminism).

But once again this theory just perpetuates the idea that whites are constantly being idolized, followed, and mimicked by blacks.



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thankyou Afriki
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Default 12-06-08, 04:51 PM

When we fail to just read books,plays, academic studies, or other works from our past we can be duped into beleiving anything.

Blues records, old fiction, plays...etc from the United States point to things that already existed in our communities well before any feminist movement came into being.

the artists are ususally the ones telling the truth.........and a lot of themes that people wish hip hoppers didn't talk about are things that have ALWAYS existed......but were brushed under the rug since the Blues era.


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Ths woman in the clip is pandering to low self esteemed Black men who she thinks need to hear such garbage. It's an insult to my intelligence that she would be so innaccurate and ignorant about her OWN history as a Black woman in America.


Libraries are FREE over here........she has no excuse......
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Default 12-06-08, 06:40 PM

I didn't watch the whole clip.

Where does she get off thinking she can offer an apology on behalf of all Black women? She should just speak for herself, it was about her anyway.....really.

She is burying her head in the sand in ignorance about the very real issues within our interaction as BM and BW. It just reminds me of the Angie Stone types, "love me....I'll be good now, promise" types. She is just apologising for the fact that she maybe doesn't have the type of temperament which is more usually associated with those White women she is trying to blame.........the ones she probably feels the brothers "like".

I may be way off the mark here, but she just got on my nerves within the first ten seconds.

Maybe I should actually listen to the whole thing......another day perhaps lol.
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Default 12-06-08, 08:03 PM

Ahhh, the malady of living in the West for too long! If i hear one more Diaspora African woman talking like her, i swear i will......

I have seen many clips like hers on Youtube....pathetic


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