I'm sure you are intelligent enough to hear this little thing. A law that is no longer practiced but is still present in legal documents is still an active law. You continue to say it is no longer used. I continue to tell you "but it's still there". This means that it can easily be put back into full effect the moment it is decided that is a relevant course of action. Old laws are always erased once they are no longer useful to prevent them from being used again in future. For example (just so a silly little someone doesn't decide to say I'm not looking at my own country of residence) in the UK up until 1998 it was against the law for any African to be enslaved. In 1998 the law was repealed (even though by your standards there is no need for them to do so) and the human rights bill was introduced under which all people who have been or are currently incarcerated can be legally enslaved/put to work, with no pay. There are a significant amount of Africans institutionalised here also (not as high as in the US but getting there). If you take a look at your own laws you will find many things that they could have just ignored being repealed but never that law. This is why it's brought up. And by the way, I'm all too painfully aware of why the law was put there in the first place and why it was ignored thereafter (although you wouldn't think it from their treatment of you for some time)


They protect your rights as long as they exist within the law, if you read my earlier posts you'll know why that is so fragile.



I made no comment about YOUR patriotism. It wasn't about you and you didn't defend your stance, you attacked mine, there's a difference. And your calm and niceties are shown by the comment below. A calm person would have by now realised that I was not and am not saying anything against your patriotism, I just don't understand it. It can only be viewed as against your patriotism not to understand it if you actually care about what I think. If you didn't this conversation would never have been started in the first place. Your patriotism seems very much determined by others and not yourself.



I never said you cared about what I think however, evidenced by the fact that you took to your keyboard to "defend your stance" shows you care. HE CARES EVERYONE. MY HEART'S SKIPPING A BEAT.



I never questioned your pride, I just don't understand it and I don't understand African American pride in America full stop. There is a difference between not understanding and questioning. Look at my first post, did you see a question mark? <one of those

I did not ignore all of the yadda yadda yadda you just wrote about, I simply overlooked irrelivant information that did not at all pertain to my initial statement. You're the one here questioning my initial statement. You may continue all you wish but I don't think you currently have the mental capacity to understand my initial STATEMENT. Have you undergone some sort of intellectual circumcision or something?

PS, your overly emotional response to something that was not directed towards you or your patriotism speaks volumes about you.

Still not understanding a relatively simple concept of a difference between a statement of not understanding and a declaration of disagreement with...

What are they teaching you out there in those schools.

PS, despite the comments of the wet terd (they know who they are) and yourself, I do understand what you're saying quite clearly, I simply don't understand the lack of a (IMO) logical train of thought that creates the perspective. Had you understood that you could have saved a lot of bandwidth from the nonsense you typed.

I humbly await the next ill thought out basis lacking tirade.

Back peddling is the move of a coward. Stand by your words even if you were proven wrong by doing so. You have disrespected BLACK AMERICANS in this thread and your green skin shows by the words you type. You don't understand our pride as Black Americans aye? Well maybe if you werent always walking in our shadows you'd know what we're proud of.

Yes, you must be correct. It is better to walk towards an abyss that has already been mapped out for you so that you can maintain your pride and see it for yourself. That is a bold and just move, in the land of ignoramia maybe.

First of all I have mentioned many times that I have expressed my opinion, not anything that can be proven right or wrong. I have also expressed that i do not believe in right and wrong.

Second of all I have not disrespected anybody. A bunch of overly sensitive African Americans have blown a simple statement that they could not understand out of proportion and now at least one of them is openly admitting that he will continue arguing to save face no matter what. The disrespect you feel is only present in your own lack of understanding of what i have been saying to you. You're not in a die hard film here, so I don't know what type of manhood you think you have by running towards an argument whether you are "right" or "wrong", but I tell you, I don't see or respect that "manhood" as manhood at all.

Finally, I'm a Caribbean man my friend, I don't walk in the shadows of the pathetic and the weak. I respect the great americans of the past and some I hae absolutely no respect for at all. However for each of those that you can name in america I can name another three outside of America and many of them from my home. The reason being not that America is lacking in suitable heroes, but that there are many more Africans outside America than there are in it and if you took a second to take pride in all of our achievements as a people you would know I have and no other African historian (home or school taught) has any reason to be in your shadow.

This quite pathetic belief in people being in your shadow is has and always will be the mark of the ignorant African American. There are AA's on this board that I respect who wouldn't dream of making such a silly statement but with the ignorant ones, the ones who cannot understand a simple concept and would fight even though they believe themselves to be "wrong", the ignorant ones always have subtle and or serious delusions of granduer, forever believing in the greatness of the African American over all else in a nation that is fast falling and will not be what it is now within the next ten years (failing economy and masive debt).

lol @ "your green skin shows by the words you type"

I don't even think you quite understand the words you type let alone my own and I am sure, judging by the calibur of your posts I have seen so far, that I will be explaining aspects of this post to you for a long while.

Whenever you AA's get tired of arguing moot points publicly, you're welcome to PM me and I'll be glad to help you save face. I'll even play along when your here and behave like your "superior intelligence" made little old me run off and hide once again "in your shadow", lol.

Yea yeA yEa

You're welcome to your opinion and I'm welcome to mine so I'm leaving this thread be. I don't think any of you will ever understand what I am saying and you all think I don't understand what you're saying so this has become quite pointless and time consuming for no reason.

For final clarification, a similar patriotism exists within African Caribbean cultures and indeed Continental African cultures to the land in which individuals are born. I have looke at these and made statements on all of these in the past and nowhere did I recieve the reaction I got from people here due to sheer emotion (albeit understandable). I have no quarrel with African Americans, I simply do not understand the incessant need to separate oneself from Africa (and to clarify, I don't understand it when people do it here, in the Caribbean or on the continent itself). I made a statement, and I did not want to get into an argument about it. Continual attacks on my intelligence and or stance don't help change the statement as it stands regardless.

All are welcome to respond to my final posts but if you wish to get a reply you're welcome to PM me otherwise you'll be able to talk amongst yourselves as much as you want because I have no interest what so ever in continuing a circular argument about a non issue and having people misunderstand my posts to create some sort of AA's and others beef.

Enjoy.

What a disgusting and ignorant post.

1. Condi is the Secretary of State, and Dick Cheney is Secretary of Defense. Of course they BOTH have alot to do w/the horrible situation in Iraq. But of course, you being ignorant of American matters, you wouldn't really know what goes on here, right?

2. Your hatred for America is very evident in your posts. You spew crap about African-Americans and white Americans alike without knowing a damn thing about either one of us and what we've had to go through TOGETHER in THIS country.

3. You've discredited the accomplishments of African Americans. I suggest you do some research before you discredit an entire group of people. We produced great inventors such as Lewis Latimer, Benjamin Banneker, and George Washington Carver. We had some of the most respected leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, and M. Garvey. We've had some of the greatest entertainers and we have made many contributions in music (jazz, rock n roll, anyone?).

We have already proven ourselves. It is about time YOU do so.

3. "Captain Sambo." You are pathetic. Take your racist ass out of this thread immediately. I will not have you disrespect my African ancestors who worked so hard so I could be here right now, living a better life than they did.

You can kiss my ass. It is over.

Thank you, King Capo! This man is so pathetic, talking down on black Americans and then hiding behind his screen once he has been called out. Seriously. No one is denying that there are black people outside of the U.S. that have accomplished many great things, but for him to deny the fact AAs have done alot of good is horrible.

I recommend that you put him on ignore. We know that we are good, and that is why we have so many haters.

I believe that most of the time people tend to be interested or focus on things they see in themselves or things that remind them of themselves and feel some kind of let's say "ownership" to that characteristic that they share with others this I believe create some affinity one way or another. I come from central/East Africa and find myself more at ease with people from that part and understand and debate better about who they are than people from West Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, etc ... or jamaica in that matter; I may befriend a west indian and become close to them but when it comes to subjects like culture,origin,etc,...I will find the ugandan,rwandan,kenyan,tanzanian easier to understand than west-indian or american; that's what I was trying to say by "affinity".

I couldn't agree more! there can only be communication and relationship when two or more groups agree on what's best for the overall group,agreement on values,rules,principles... however the majority group will always impose itself because statistically it's the strongest in terms of number of the people that are trying to get together; ultimately the minority ends up by weakness assimilating itself to the largest number or by defiance walking away.

To the strange one.

3. "Captain Sambo." You are pathetic. Take your racist ass out of this thread immediately. I will not have you disrespect my African ancestors who worked so hard so I could be here right now, living a better life than they did.

You can kiss my ass. It is over.[/quote]

Captain Sambo was a real person named by the British who was a tireless and fearless captor of runaway slaves. This is before the Maroons even joined in on the act.

Any African/black man who fights for European armies is a CS. Simple. People like him done my ancesors a dis-service and were traitors of the highest order.

Just like the modern day Captain Sambo's in the British and US armies today. Imagine couldnt even vote in your country and had people more than willing to die in Europe for the European imperialistic war that WWI & WWII was. Backward slaves.