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It is a pity that a man of the limited intellectual calibre and weak political character like Haile Selassie became Emperor of Abyssinia at so crucial a time in the political history of the world. Unfortunately, Abyssinia lost the controlling influence of a political personality of patriotic racial character like the late Menelik, whose loyalty to his race and devotion to his country excelled all his other qualities, to the extent that he was able to use that very strength to continuously safeguard the interests of the Ethiopian Empire. What he did so well to preserve, a cringing, white slave hero worshipper, visionless and disloyal to his country, threw away. This is the impression the serious minded political student forms of the conduct of the ex-Emperor of Abyssinia.

EVERY NEGRO ASHAMED
Every Negro who is proud of his race must be ashamed of the way in which Haile Selassie surrendered himself to the white wolves of Europe. These statements may be considered very severe, and in fact, they are. We could have been otherwise apologetic and sympathetic, but that would have been only if we were dealing with a Coptic Priest or a Religious Monk and not a[n] Emperor who held and presided over the political trust of twelve million people of his own country, and the political destiny of the entire Negro race. This little misguided Emperor could not realize that he held in his hands the political trust of the hundreds of millions of Negroes of the world, men and women, who were looking up toward the firm establishment of political sovereignty, and that Ethiopia, like Liberia and Haiti were to them prizes of glory to be perpetuated and strengthened in the maintenance of the dignity of that black race that other men have claimed to be incompetent, inferior and unworthy, which every black man must disprove.


LOOKED WITH HOPE
When the war started in Abyssinia all Negro nationalists looked with hope to Haile Selassie. They spoke for him, they prayed for him, they sung for him, they did everything to hold up his hands, as Aaron did for Moses; but whilst the Negro peoples of the world were praying for the success of Abyssinia this little Emperor was undermining the fabric of his own kingdom by playing the fool with white men, having them advising him[,] having them telling him what to do, how to surrender, how to call off the successful thrusts of his Rases against the Italian invaders. Yes, they were telling him how to prepare his flight, and like an imbecilic child he followed every advice and then ultimately ran away from his country to England, leaving his people to be massacred by the Italians, and leaving the serious white world to laugh at every Negro and repeat the charge and snare – "he is incompetent," "we told you so." Indeed Haile Selassie has proved the incompetence of the Negro for political authority, but thank God there are Negroes who realize that Haile Selassie did not represent the truest qualities of the Negro race. How could he, when he wanted to play white? How could he, when he surrounded himself with white influence? How could he, when in a modem world, and in a progressive civilization, he preferred a slave State of black men than a free democratic country where the black citizens could rise to the same opportunities as white citizens in their democracies?




TELL THE TRUTH
The truth must be told so that the white world will realize that it was not the pride of the Negro that surrendered in Abyssinia. It was the disloyalty of a single man who was too silly to take pride in his race, who played such a game as to disgrace the political integrity of a noble people. The Negroes of Abyssinia and of the world are satisfied however that Abyssinia was not conquered by Italy and the European forces of Mussolini. Abyssinia was only conquered by the black levies of Italy. The Askaris have really been the victors in Abyssinia. [Rodolfo] Graziani only marched into Addis Ababa after he had made sure of the advanced guard of the Askaris. Every battle that the Italians won in Abyssinia resulted from the advanced charge of the Askaris. It was black men fighting black men, and this was made possible in Abyssinia because the regime of Haile Selassie had given a bad taste to the mouth, not only of the blacks of Abyssinia but of those of the surrounding territories. They felt that they had a cause against the Amharic white loving Emperor who liked to chain and flog black men, and whose brutality to them gave Mussolini the cause to fool the world that he was bestowing a blessing upon the people of Abyssinia by freeing them.


NO SLAVES
It was a piece of impertinence to suggest that black men should be held as slaves. We must admit that we glorified Haile Selassie when the war started, fought his battles to win international support, but we ever felt deep down in our hearts that he was a slave master. We had hoped that if Abyssinia had won that we would have forced the Government of Abyssinia to free the black whom they held as slaves. We would have preferred this than seeing the country taken by Mussolini or any European power; but now that the country is temporarily lost and the Emperor has cowardly exiled himself, the truth must be told.


WHAT RIGHT HAS HE?
The future freedom of Abyssinia must be built upon the highest principles of democracy. That is why it is preferable for the Abyssinian Negroes and the Negroes of the world to work for the restoration and freedom of the country without the assistance of Haile Selassie, because at best he is but a slave master. The Negroes of the Western World whose forefathers suffered for three hundred years under the terrors of slavery ought to be able to appreciate what freedom means. Surely they cannot feel justified in supporting any system that would hold their brothers in slavery in another country whilst they are enjoying the benefits of freedom elsewhere. The Africans who are free can also appreciate the position of slaves in Abyssinia. What right has the Emperor to keep slaves when all the democratic sections of the world were free, when men had the right to live, to develop, to expand, to enjoy all the benefits of human liberty[?] The Emperor who has been exiled in Europe must have seen the civilization of Europe. In England where he lives he sees that men are not flogged and chained and kicked because of their colour or because of their condition, but where true human liberty guarantees to every man the happiest pursuit he can bring to himself. It has been reported that he is leaving England for Syria, where a large number of Abyssinian refugees are living. There is an interpretation that the decision to leave England and to live among "his people?" in Syria is to perpetuate his divine majesty in the presence of that king worship that he doesn't get in England, where men look at others as equals and not as masters by divine right. In truth, the Emperor is out of place in democratic England. He wants to be once more in the environment of the feudal Monarch who looks down upon his slaves and serfs with contempt. Except he changes the attitude of thinking himself better than the Negro who constitutes the larger number of Ethiopia and profit by the experience he has gained, he should not be a fit person to be in authority in the very country in which he was born. After all, Haile Selassie is just an ordinary man like any other human being. What right has he to hold men as slaves? It is only the misfortune of the slaves that causes him to be a slave master. Negroes who have the dignity of their race at heart resent the impertinence of anyone holding the blacks as slaves. Haile Selassie ought to realize this and abolish his foolish dream of being an Emperor of slaves and serfs and try to be an Emperor of noble men, and for him to be that he must himself be the noblest of them all. He hasn't proved his nobility in the war between Italy and Abyssinia. Ras Desta proved to be the Lord, the Nobleman of Ethiopia whilst Haile Selassie proved a cringing coward!


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Black Lion is... Agu Bu Oji in Igbo, Simba nyeusi in Swahili, the name of a hospital in Addis Adaba the capital of Ethiopia.
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100 bumps to Rebel Lion for presenting this information.



Dr. John Henrik Clarke said that Sellassie "wasn't even a pure Ethiopian". Does anyone have any information on this claim?
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Thanks. I was always one of those who didn't understand where his title of divine came from. I suppose some would call me a false Ras for saying this but I could never understand what this man did to become seen as divine.

I will research this information soon enough. Thanks for the info RL and MN for recommending.


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I don't know much about Selaisse but wasn't the reason their was so much hype around him due to the fact that people tought he was part of the Same blood line as God (I think)


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I don't know much about Selaisse but wasn't the reason their was so much hype around him due to the fact that people tought he was part of the Same blood line as God (I think)

Everybody did tink seh im was the black jesus come from the blood line of king solomon as did jesus.


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He, 'was' in line with King David and the other biblical figures which would include Jesus or so the story goes.

Haven't read up on him too much to be honest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haile_S..._I_of_Ethiopia

^ Haile (Tafari Makonnen)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ras_Makonnen

^ Father, Makonnen... Grandson of....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahle_Selassie

^Who was the youngest son of...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wossen_Seged

^Who, in turn was the eldset son of....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asfa_Wossen

^The son of....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amha_Iyasus

^Who was the son of...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qedami_Qal

^Again, the son of....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebestyanos

^Who was one of the sons of....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negasi_Krestos

^ His father was Lesba Qal great-grandson of Prince Yaqob, son of Emperor....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebna_Dengel

Queen mother stepped in to act as regent while he came of age, ''she was aware that the neighboring Muslim states were benefitting from the assistance of other, larger Muslim countries like the Ottoman Empire.

She was...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleni_of_Ethiopia

^ Married to Yaqob... (her father is not listed)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zara_Yaqob_of_Ethiopia

^Yaqob... Of the Solomonic dynasty;

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomonic_dynasty)

Which is; the traditional royal house of Ethiopia, claiming descent from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, who is said to have given birth to the traditional first king Menelik I after her Biblically-described visit to Solomon in Jerusalem.

In turn Brother of....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tewodros_I_of_Ethiopia

Who was preceeded by....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawit_I_of_Ethiopia

Hope I'm not getting lost here but it then goes to ("Vessel of Christ")....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newaya_Krestos

^ Oldest son of...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amda_Seyon_I

^ Oldest son of....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedem_Arad

Who; seized power from his nephews proclaiming a Jiihad against Wdem Arad

It then goes to...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of...on_of_Ethiopia

Which has a ''preceeded by'' button at the bottom of the page... This is now at the year 1294 approx the next ruler is Yagbe'u Seyon. Would be good tolift itall and have the entire family tree on BNV, I think the Ethiopian government must've got someone to log in theentire royal family on Wiki. Can trace them right back...

Goes as far as; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dil_Na%27odand more into the Kings of Axum;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dil_Na%27od


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Let's hope no rasta reads this. LOL
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