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I've been reading alot of threads and posts on this forum about the ancient egyptians. Alot of people have said that they were black. I don't agree with that and think its trying to rewrite history. I think north africa has to be distinguised from the rest of africa because the north african populations are/were largely of middle eastern appearence.

Looking at the pics and sculptures of most ancient egptians, still makes me see them as middle eastern/arabic. There features are more similar to each other.

I'm sure africa has alot of great cultures and civilisations but i still believe (based on what i've experienced, seen and read) that ancient egytians were not one of them.

Egyptians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Where did they say they came from?

What culture does theirs resemble?

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Who were the people of Indus Kush?

Lastly... Has the Sahara always been a desert?





Michael Jacksons well titled tune...

remeber that the arab invasion of northern africa was only a few generations after the death of islam's prophet mohammed and thus many centuries after the fall of egypt's empires collaspe. of course you are allowed to disagree, but that's they truth.

You imagine Arabs were always were they are? Or any race for that matter? Dear oh dear. The migration of phenotypical Arabs into Africa is a process that is still ongoing. Or do you imagine Tunisia, Morrocco and Libya always had populations that looked like that? Oh dear.

Ancient Egypt, early Egypt was undeniable African. Precursors of what would become Egyptian culture are found far to the south for one small example. Only during LATE Egypt did the Persians followed by the Greeks, Romans and Arabs carry out successive raids on what was Egypt. The Persians and Greeks both adopted Egyptian superficialities of culture while there which clouds the issue somewhat. Dude... Mohammad was around in 600AD. Egypt was around for a good few millenia before that .

I don't know. I've never talked to one

Egyptian/middle eastern?

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Kush are a Nubian civilisation, 3/4 of which is in Sudan. so i guess the Kushites were sudanese. But I still don't get what they have to do with egyptians?


No but so what? The earth hasn't always been habitable.

Billy Jean. nuff said.

'A 2006 bioarchaeological study on the dental morphology of ancient Egyptians by Prof. Joel Irish shows dental traits characteristic of indigenous North Africans and to a lesser extent Southwest Asian populations. Among the samples included in the study is skeletal material from the Hawara tombs of Fayum, which clustered very closely with the Badarian series of the predynastic period. All the samples, particularly those of the Dynastic period, were significantly divergent from a neolithic West Saharan sample from Lower Nubia. Biological continuity was also found intact from the dynastic to the post-pharaonic periods.'

Egyptians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (same link again)

....just a lil bit of info...
wikipedia is good, but cannot be trusted 100% of the time....

it can be modified and edited by anyone.

Some of these are long replies so if u don't wanna read them i'll sum up most of it in the following.

I don't think anyone claims that oriental people are africans. But if someone does then i guess we all know better than to take them seriously.

I re-read my original post and I can't find anywhere in it where i've said that. Anyway I know how evolution goes.

'[The Egyptian] samples [996 mummies] exhibit morphologically simple, mass-reduced dentitions that are similar to those in populations from greater North Africa...and, to a lesser extent, western Asia and Europe'
Egyptians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But much more importantly

'Similar craniofacial measurements among samples from these regions were reported as well (Brace et al., 1993)... an inspection of MMD values reveals no evidence of increasing phenetic distance between samples from the first and second halves of this almost 3,000-year-long period. For example, phenetic distances between First-Second Dynasty Abydos and samples from Fourth Dynasty Saqqara (MMD ¼ 0.050), 11-12th Dynasty Thebes (0.000), 12th Dynasty Lisht (0.072), 19th Dynasty Qurneh (0.053), and 26th–30th Dynasty Giza (0.027) do not exhibit a directional increase through time... Thus, despite increasing foreign influence after the Second Intermediate Period, not only did Egyptian culture remain intact (Lloyd, 2000a), BUT THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES, AS REPRESENTED BY THE DENTAL SAMPLES, APPEAR BIOLOGICALLY CONSTANT AS WELL'


This may be true but it does not change the fact that the egyptians are more closely related to the mid-east than africa.

I've come across this many many times before. I use to act high n mighty about it as well. It has some truth but its sort of like people who wear glasses purely for the impression of being intellectual. Snobbery but without anything to back it up with.

For most things wiki does the job.

Besides doesn't everything done or written by people have a bias one way or another?

Oh yes indeed

I have recently found information on DNA tests of stone statues from Kemet that prove that Menes was non-African.

Thank God for European science!

Where would we be without it????????