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Default Why Were We So Easily Subdued by Europeans? - 09-01-08, 12:43 AM

Well, according to the late great Dr. John Henrik Clarke, the reason is resident in a full millenia of torment Islam inflicted on Africa. Here are his words...

"I maintain that all organized religions with their high-sounding principles were taken over by power-hungry male chauvinist murder cults. Islam, of over 1,000 years before the beginning of the European and Atlantic slave traders drained Africa of so much time, energy and resources that it did not have enough strength and organization to resist the European slave trade."

Dr. John Henrik Clarke
Arab Invasion of Egypt and the Last 30 Years of Roman Dominion


What do you think of Dr. Clarke's assessment?


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It was down to the guile of a grey - cunning, like the fox. The greys entire existence was founded on survival where they had to conquer nature because nature could not live with them. That conquering then simply moved on to conquering people and the world and now space and the universe is the new frontier.

Just look how businesses and white collar criminals run the show today. The worse people we could have ever sold ourselves to was the grey.
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To answer the question....the isolation of Africa from the innovations being shared along Europe and Asia is the root.

Multiple groups of people, speaking multiple languages and nothing to tie them together? .....and living in relative isolation from then current technology?

ripe for exploitation....

I think we stay in denial when we don't examine the reasons we were so vulnerable..and keep pointing out the imperial nature of White christians and Arab mulsims ......................
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Study history. The Europeans employed the same strategy wherever they put their grey feet. I call it the old 1-2-3 and it is played thus:
  • We come in peace
  • We wish to trade ...and the kicker
  • LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT JESUS.
Those who accept the paradigm of turning the other cheek and praying for the enemy produces a nation of people who spin on their knees. The African was especially susceptible, it confused the native Americans enough that some tribes abstained from fighting.

Fortunately the Asian's natural xenophobia kept the European and his bible at bay for a while. If you read some of these peace treaties between the Europeans and native cultures you can see it pretty near the top of the list.: Lose territory, give up sovereignty...allow churches to be built on your land.

Today they have changed the language. Instead of bringing Christianity they now bring Democracy.

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To answer the question....the isolation of Africa from the innovations being shared along Europe and Asia is the root.


Africa wasn't CREATED isolated! I will not patronise you by recounting our historical achievements, because i believe you are aware of those already. We had innovations, well before Europe even knew how to cook a piece of meat properly. So i really find your answer above weird....

Multiple groups of people, speaking multiple languages and nothing to tie them together? .....and living in relative isolation from then current technology?

ripe for exploitation....


Yet BEFORE invasion after invasions brought on by the Arabs, Asirians et all, we had very stringent and advancing societies...with people speaking MULTIPLE languages. I don't think Dr Clarke is talking about the Fox News Africa here....you know the one with multiple groups of people, multiple languages sounding like its a negative thing blahh blahh. The funny thing is, only in the West do people seem to think that having so called multiple groups of people is hard to manage.....but when i was back home, us the Africans had MORE pressing issues that we found chalenging then having a neighbour form the East next door......the so called "differences" is only a more presssing issue here in the west and the news program.....eg, the way they are reporting Kenya at the moment.

I think we stay in denial when we don't examine the reasons we were so vulnerable..and keep pointing out the imperial nature of White christians and Arab mulsims ......................


Dr Clarke is probably the LAST person on earth to be in denial of our predicament. Being a historian, he is simply showing us our map.....how we got where we are today, how we got here and what are the LESSONS to be learned from the PAST. Thats not denial.....denial actually would be for us to look at our predicament the way you have looked at it here and just think its us the problem. Not to say that one shouldn't look inside first, but it is also wise to recognise your enemies, so you are best prepared to defend yourself the next time.


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To answer the question....the isolation of Africa from the innovations being shared along Europe and Asia is the root.
Arabs and their converts screwed and are screwing us over big time, they're the hidden enemy amongst us as though we've all forgotten the past 1000 years and can only remember the last 500.


I wanted to know if the Dagara elders could tell the diffrence between fiction and reality. The elders did not understand what a starship is, they did not understand what the fussy uniforms had to do with anything but they recognized in Spock a Kontomble of the seventh planet... they had never seen a Kontomble that big.
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To answer the question....the isolation of Africa from the innovations being shared along Europe and Asia is the root.
That is ridiculous. What innovations were outside of Africa before 1400 CE that were not already resident in Africa itself?



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Multiple groups of people, speaking multiple languages and nothing to tie them together? .....and living in relative isolation from then current technology?
There are over 40 distinct languages (perhaps many more) in Europe alone, yet is a small fraction of the land-mass of Africa. Europe was just a bunch of murderous white tribes against each other until relatively recently in terms of history. The only thing that binds them together is their psychopathic racially-imbued fear of darker peoples (or White Supremacy).



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ripe for exploitation....

I think we stay in denial when we don't examine the reasons we were so vulnerable..and keep pointing out the imperial nature of White christians and Arab mulsims ......................
Your comments amount to saying we are inferior. If that is not what you mean to say, then what exactly are we in denial about?...and be specific. I say we have failed to recognize the nature of the beast in their white psychopathic paranoid aggression (as according to Dr. Welsing). Considering that, what are we in denial about?


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When you depend on them for your education and survival what do you expect?
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Good conversation and exchange here. Let's continue this.


Military technology, particularly the use of gunpowder for military purposes is one of the technological advantages that arabs and whites who exploited the continent had.

When the invaders,slavers DID launch, there was no US/WE. There were countless tribes and ethnicities who for the most part saw nothing in common with each...and who were perhaps rivals for resources. this segmentation was exploited by the outsider...playing groups against one another. No common unifying language,religion, or tradition .


The christian slave trade made europe so wealthy, that by the time the second phase of the exploitation was launched,colonization......the european powers had vast technological advantage over the parts of Africa.
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Good conversation and exchange here. Let's continue this.


Military technology, particularly the use of gunpowder for military purposes is one of the technological advantages that arabs and whites who exploited the continent had.

When the invaders,slavers DID launch, there was no US/WE. There were countless tribes and ethnicities who for the most part saw nothing in common with each...and who were perhaps rivals for resources. this segmentation was exploited by the outsider...playing groups against one another. No common unifying language,religion, or tradition .


The christian slave trade made europe so wealthy, that by the time the second phase of the exploitation was launched,colonization......the european powers had vast technological advantage over the parts of Africa.

You are focusing on effects of the root cause of the problem. Europeans were just as tribal as Africans until divisiveness was escalated by slave-raiding Islamic jihadists. We already know we were divided, therefore easy to conquer. The question is why.

When it comes to military technology, we had use of iron, metal-working, and even gun-powder in Africa. The fragmentation of our cultures didn't allow for that aspect of developed civilization to prosper. However, that isn't the reason for our subjugation, but one of the methods used that we couldn't overcome due to our fragmented societies.


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I think we need to be pro active, because history shows us that exploitation is the way of the world.

For example....I beg and plead on every site I've ever been on for people to purchase at least one definitive encyclopedia about African world history. Just as a foundation.....and then you can add the more detailed books about specific time periods or areas.


If that book or dvd is not in your home....then do not complain about what we already know...that news media is distorting facts and making us look bad at every turn....that our kids are bombarded with another person's views,standard of beauty,ideological views,etc....

The enemy is VERY predictable......but what do we do about it?
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When the Moslems tried to invade/conquer Europe.......the whites rallied around religion/christianity....these fractured splintered groups of people in europe were unified for that purpose by the church......
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