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The Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa... -
30-01-08, 09:50 PM
This is an excellent work by John Alembillah Azumah detailing the effect Arab-Islam has had on Africa. Certain words in the Arabic language demonstrate just how integral White Supremacy is ingrained in Arabic (and all Semitic) culture. For instance, the word for "slave" is abd, Abdullah means the "slave of Allah," where all Blacks/Africans are called Abeed (plural for slaves). You find similarly in Hebrew, Obed means "servant".
Another interesting fact was that the Arabic-Islamic slave trade in the trans-Saharan and East African slave markets had mortality rates as high as 80-90%, where the trans-Atlantic slave trade with Europeans is estimated at 10-30%. Also, in the trans-Atlantic, there were 2 men for every woman that went to the Americas. However, it was reversed with the Arabic-Islamic slave trade in that it took 2 women for every man (where all men were castrated). We can easily imagine the reason the Arabs demanded these gender ratios.
With the men already being castrated, the children born to our women were regularly killed at birth, which explains why there isn't a much higher African/Black population in West Asia like that in Brazil and the United States. The death toll of Africans from the trans-Saharan and East African Islamic slave trade may be upwards of 140 million souls.
As the author stresses, it is a shame the attitude of neglect African Muslims have to this history. I couldn't give this book enough justice in its wealth of information about our heritage in just a forum post, so I'll suggest taking a look at the following video, and of course getting the book as a reference for you own personal library...
Muslim Black slavery - Islam slave history of Black Africa {VIDEO}
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31-01-08, 01:10 PM
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Anti Muslim propaganda.
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The subtitle under this book is "A Quest for Inter-religious Dialogue". Why is it that the truth has to be labelled as "anti-Muslim" by you who I am presuming is a Muslim? In fact, this same negation of truth seems to be quite consistent in the Arab/Islamic world throughout Africa, West Asia, and even here in the States. It would seem that it if you can't live with the reality of things, and so have to intimidate people into believing your burrowing fantasies then you probably have an identity complex that needs resolving before any other people (especially those who have fallen victim to your history) can have any kind of productive relationship with you.
Therefore, this being "anti-Muslim" is only what your apparently maladapted mind miscontrued. As for it being "propaganda", well...that just means its information meant to propagate. That isn't always a bad thing.
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01-02-08, 12:40 PM
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Your perception of truth does not equate to reality, which is always and forever the Oneness of Allah.
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How did I know you were going to come with some vague Islamo-babble...LOL...
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01-02-08, 03:22 PM
The video has pictures and plenty of information for the concerned Muslim, was wondering what happened to the black population of North Africa.
Would people say that the Arabs are more or less of a threat to us than the Caucasians?
I wanted to know if the Dagara elders could tell the diffrence between fiction and reality. The elders did not understand what a starship is, they did not understand what the fussy uniforms had to do with anything but they recognized in Spock a Kontomble of the seventh planet... they had never seen a Kontomble that big.
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02-02-08, 05:25 AM
Arabs are your brothers??? These same racist ass mother****ers enslaved, raped, and beat blacks in Africa for centuries and are still doing the same thing. And even beat their dumb, retarded religion into blacks. And you have the nerve to call them your brothers. Go somewhere else with that shit. And are you calling African tribalists inferior, primitive people because of their lifestyle?
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02-02-08, 05:28 AM
There is no one here on this website who cares about Arabs. They damn sure as hell aren't worrying about us either. Never in my life will a call an Arab or other non-black person my brother or sister.
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02-02-08, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Shemsi en Tehuti
This is an excellent work by John Alembillah Azumah detailing the effect Arab-Islam has had on Africa. Certain words in the Arabic language demonstrate just how integral White Supremacy is ingrained in Arabic (and all Semitic) culture. For instance, the word for "slave" is abd, Abdullah means the "slave of Allah," where all Blacks/Africans are called Abeed (plural for slaves). You find similarly in Hebrew, Obed means "servant".
Another interesting fact was that the Arabic-Islamic slave trade in the trans-Saharan and East African slave markets had mortality rates as high as 80-90%, where the trans-Atlantic slave trade with Europeans is estimated at 10-30%. Also, in the trans-Atlantic, there were 2 men for every woman that went to the Americas. However, it was reversed with the Arabic-Islamic slave trade in that it took 2 women for every man (where all men were castrated). We can easily imagine the reason the Arabs demanded these gender ratios.
With the men already being castrated, the children born to our women were regularly killed at birth, which explains why there isn't a much higher African/Black population in West Asia like that in Brazil and the United States. The death toll of Africans from the trans-Saharan and East African Islamic slave trade may be upwards of 140 million souls.
As the author stresses, it is a shame the attitude of neglect African Muslims have to this history. I couldn't give this book enough justice in its wealth of information about our heritage in just a forum post, so I'll suggest taking a look at the following video, and of course getting the book as a reference for you own personal library...
Muslim Black slavery - Islam slave history of Black Africa {VIDEO}
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This book is exactly what I need. Though it should be obvious to any half-wit that Islam is not something africans should be following, it would it would be better to be able to 'tie them up' with actual examples.
I will definatley get this book before muslims exert their influence and get it taken off the shelves.
140 million WTF?
This would seem hard to belive if it wasn't for the fact that we only have to look at what is going on in Dafur and at how they treat one another!
Dosn't really fill one with confidence in our future when so many africans are falling over themselve to join up because they think some Malcome X like 'fire' will wash over them.
This is a step in the right direction. Hopfully more authors will follow Mr John Alembillah Azumah example put these thing in print reguardless of the coolies that are offened.
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02-02-08, 10:21 AM
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Do you feel your baseless attacks will in any way make me question my devotion to Islam?
Before I am Black or a Kenyan or an African, I am a Muslim. The Arabs on North Africa, they are my brothers. The tribalists in the Congo-they are not.
You will never understand Islam.
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You cheeky b@stard!!!!
What the fcuk are you here then? Take you curry-loving @ss and fcuk off to some Islamic board that way you need not concern youself with tribalists.
That fact that you so brazenly type this reply here shows how confident you are of an army of sympathysers that think ''Oooh, Malcome X was a muslim so islam must be cool '' backing you up. No other religions lacky could comfortablely make such a statement around black folk and get away with it.
This is exactly what I have always belived, when push come to shove, you idiots are too caught up in your 'religion' to be intrested in real african affairs. Once you fools get caught up in religion, you pretty much useless and good for nothing except bowing and groveling and spreading arab sh1t everywhere.
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02-02-08, 02:04 PM
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Do you feel your baseless attacks will in any way make me question my devotion to Islam?
Before I am Black or a Kenyan or an African, I am a Muslim. The Arabs on North Africa, they are my brothers. The tribalists in the Congo-they are not.
You will never understand Islam.
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Here lies the problem. No one is asking you to forgo your faith in Islam. However, you were not born a Muslim...no one is. You were born an African, no matter where in the world you came out of your mother's cooch. If you will side with non-Africans before your own, which is the very divisiveness that put Africa in its present predicament, then serious consideration has to be taken into how to deal with other Africans like you in our pursuit for African Liberation. As of right now, people like you are the enemy and there is no other way to look at it.
Given this case, why are you here in a pro-African forum given you are pro-Arab?
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02-02-08, 03:55 PM
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Your anti Islamic diatribe is based on poorly constructed propaganda.
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If it is so 'poorly constructed' then it shouldn't be difficult for you to dismatle now, should it?
This is the real danger of muslims, once your are coverted/brain-washed, nothing will open your eyes.
If Allah himself pop up and told you Islam is anti-african you lot would take it as a test of your faith and would become even more devout.
Madness, absolute madness!!
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02-02-08, 04:00 PM
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I am not pro Arab, I am pro Islam. Islam is not Arabic, Islam is universal.
Of the ~ 1.5 bn Muslims on this Earth, 200 million are Arabs. 500 million are South Asian (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc), another 300-400 Million are in East Asia, and the rest across Africa and Europe and those who revert to Islam.
Your anti Islamic diatribe is based on poorly constructed propaganda.
I am African, that is why I am here. I am Muslim too, no one wears only one ID, like everyman I have many facets to my persona.
I do feel Islam is a civilizing element, yes. Not just in Africa, but in Asia and everywhere else.
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In the words of Dr. Yosef ben-Yochannan, "religion is the deification of culture". Christianity deifies Western Indo-European culture, just as Islam deifies Eastern Indo-European (Semitic/Arab) culture. When you deify/glorify someone elses culture, they become your god. It is not impressive at all the numbers of non-Arab Muslims in the world. It just demonstrates the extent of their imperialism in the world, just as Westernization (or pursuits of Democracy) demonstrate the extents of Western imperialism in the world. One could make the same kind ridiculous statement that "Westernization is universal" simply because there are more democratic societies that are non-European/White than its European/White originators. If we are going to discern with reason here, then it is obvious that your argument is just as absurd.
Islam has never civilized anything it has touched. It is fraternal to Western culture, in that it is the antithesis of civilization. Both Western and Arabic/Islamic culture seek to destroy everything it touches. This is evident in the fact that Islam has extinguished perhaps countless African cultures (that were more enlightened than Islam) in the last 1400 years of its virulent spread in Africa.
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