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Thumbs up Fascism in Africa - 17-04-08, 02:39 PM

Fascism means many things, but one underling tone of fascism is a strong sense of national unity and pride for the nation or a group of people. Fascist leaders try to draw from past events of history that include humiliation, murder and crime against his people by an outside force. Much like Adolf did with Germany before World War 2. However, one must not get confused with Nazism and Fascism as many scholars agree that Nazism is a type of fascism, and however, is not alike, with the word Fascism.

If the purpose of fascism is to unite people, under a collective mass, using the experience of past humiliation and defeat to channel that angry into uplifting the nation back to the days of glory. Then why isn't Africa a breading ground for fascism and national pride? Since every single person on that continent has had, directly or indirectly, experienced colonization and the effects of colonization. Africa has been repeatable gang rape by outside forces. Then why aren’t the people turning towards extreme means of capturing the glory days? If Germany can turn fascist over some treaty after WW1. Then why can't Africans take-up arms, and created a fascist utopia?

Not get me wrong, Nazism is bad, but so is communism and people don't have much problem with starling mass workers concentration camps, the allies said nothing after WW2. But Fascism is a realistic system of government for the African people, as it will channel all that anger and hate collect over 500 years of neo-colonialism from white Europeans into a super state where all people are marching in one direction. it can bring Africa back from the bring of absolute failure and continual decline, and out of the history books for good.

Think about it, if Africans have had the hardest time over the 500 year relationship between Europe & Africa. And Africans have been humiliated over & over again, and no one is giving African any justice. One has to ask what it takes for Africa to finally embrace Fascism.



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Then why isn't Africa a breading ground for fascism and national pride? Since every single person on that continent has had, directly or indirectly, experienced colonization and the effects of colonization. Africa has been repeatable gang rape by outside forces. Then why aren’t the people turning towards extreme means of capturing the glory days? If Germany can turn fascist over some treaty after WW1. Then why can't Africans take-up arms, and created a fascist utopia?
The caucasians suffer from other problems, Hitler merely played on a pre existing fear of ethnic people/immigrants after the collapse of the germany and loss of its colonial standing after the first world war. It was a pre exsisting mentality that just needed tapping into.

Still, Marcus Garvey said that there'd be a time when we take to our own form of Nazism... if anywhere I think it'd come from Nigeria.


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The caucasians suffer from other problems, Hitler merely played on a pre existing fear of ethnic people/immigrants after the collapse of the germany and loss of its colonial standing after the first world war. It was a pre exsisting mentality that just needed tapping into.

Still, Marcus Garvey said that there'd be a time when we take to our own form of Nazism... if anywhere I think it'd come from Nigeria.
maybe, but Hitler did do something for Germany and that was to have 15 million plus people employed while other European nations where suffering from mass unemployment, food shortages and economic decline. Fascism brought Germany back from the brink of absolute collapse. if Hitler did not engage in mass murder i wonder what people would of thought of him today.

I don't think the idea of unity and team work will come from Nigeria. sorry them boys are into other things. unless you know something we don't?



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If the purpose of fascism is to unite people, under a collective mass, using the experience of past humiliation and defeat to channel that angry into uplifting the nation back to the days of glory. Then why isn't Africa a breading ground for fascism and national pride?

Hey my hand is up at the back of the class...its not a breeding ground because very few if any African leaders have as a matter of policy instilled and informed their respective nations of their past glories. Too much colonial education materials in schools. Look if they are not even instructing their youth in their own languages then I cant see how that will extend to pride in all things indigenous.

When that happens you may see fascism in Africa. Do people in West Africa / does popular culture glorify the past empires of the region in the thousands of films from Nigeria etc.... Will majority Islamic Ethiopia/ Arab run Egypt? Did Mugabe in Zim? Thats my theory.
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Too much colonial education materials in schools.
Main problem. Same in the Carrib.

Hitler was nothing compared to the colonialists a few years before him, can see him listening to their speeches and taking notes. Europeans were fighting Germany, not Nazism.

Nationalism needs pride something he brought about with the Aryan theory borrowed from India, think Cress Welsings theory is the first attempt at reinstating that recognizing people for who they are.

Agree with what you said about Nigeria, corruption isn't a sign of national pride, people who are truly proud of their country are proud to help it progress but I see a Nationalistic trait in them, remember a friend of mine calling them the Germans of Africa, get the opinion it was them that Garvey was reffering to when he said that a form of Nationalism would come from the continent one day... will have to find that quote. Another group is the Congolese, free of the problems there I see them being a force to be reckoned with in the future. The Haitians in the Carib would bring about a cultural revolution, an African revival if they were free as well... more so than the Rasta have done, would spread to the Diaspora in general if given a chance.

Maybe something will have to happen for people to wake up and realize a need for it, Amerikkka falling and the chaos there would swing things back into being right winged across the globe or the E.U will form and the Neo Nazis will connect and commit themselves to crimes in europe enough to wake people up to a harsh reality... the Jews have their eye on that ball though but they've been burning down migrant houses across the continent and kicking up a fuss for while now, given time to settle and the advantages offered them over us as migrants it won't be long before they're up to worse things than they are now, too blind to see that their governments are up to the same thing and have been for a while.

If we had a common language (Swahili) we'd be there already, some bad things happening in europe and south america we just don't hear of.

.lol. Have been thinking about Black Nationalism for a while now, not sure if I could describe myself as one or not, it all has to revolve around a shared ideology, an African Renaissance version of the N.O.I... have to respect those guys, good/perfect model of Black Nationalism, just got the Muslem part all wrong.


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