The BN Village  
Home Register FAQ Members Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Welcome to the African and Caribbean Social network.

You are currently are in guest mode which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access other features. By joining this free African Caribbean Social utility you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), upload images, add videos, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, join the African and Caribbean community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Go Back   The BN Village > Welcome to The Black Forum - The Black net Village > Black Roots Village
Reload this Page West Indian migration to Britain 1948 - 1962

Reply
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools Display Modes
West Indian migration to Britain 1948 - 1962
1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. (#1 (permalink))
Old
Maat's Avatar
Maat is Offline
Villager Senior
Maat is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 1,492
Join Date: May 2004
Location: London
Default West Indian migration to Britain 1948 - 1962 - 07-06-08, 10:44 PM

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement Sponsored links

Part 2
(#2 (permalink))
Old
Maat's Avatar
Maat is Offline
Villager Senior
Maat is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 1,492
Join Date: May 2004
Location: London
Default Part 2 - 07-06-08, 10:45 PM

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#3 (permalink))
Old
LadyDay's Avatar
LadyDay is Offline
BNV Managing Editor
LadyDay is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 7,792
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: , , United Kingdom
Default 07-06-08, 10:59 PM

both videos are not showing
get a message no longer available


Think outside of the box...Think in spirit

Act as if it were impossible to fail!!!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#4 (permalink))
Old
Maat's Avatar
Maat is Offline
Villager Senior
Maat is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 1,492
Join Date: May 2004
Location: London
Default 07-06-08, 11:20 PM

That's strange. I get the vids when I click the links. Do you see them if you cick the links?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#5 (permalink))
Old
LadyDay's Avatar
LadyDay is Offline
BNV Managing Editor
LadyDay is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 7,792
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: , , United Kingdom
Default 07-06-08, 11:24 PM

ok the links work
when i clicked on the play button it didnt work
gonna watch them 2moro


Think outside of the box...Think in spirit

Act as if it were impossible to fail!!!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement

(#6 (permalink))
Old
Tahliba is Offline
Villager Senior
Tahliba
 
Posts: 1,612
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Birmingham, , United Kingdom
Default 21-06-08, 09:45 AM

Hidden story of West Indian volunteers in Second World War|21Jun08|Socialist Worker

Features

The hidden story of West Indian volunteers in the Second World War
The part played by the West Indians in the Second World War is finally being recognised. One RAF veteran spoke to Simon Assaf

The arrival of the Empire Windrush 60 years ago represents a defining moment in British history.

As the ship docked at Tilbury on the River Thames in June 1948 its West Indian passengers were greeted by a maelstrom of racism whipped up by the press and right wing politicians.

But for many of them this was not their first time in England.

The majority of passengers on the Windrush were servicemen and women returning to duty from leave. But the country they had left a short time before was now different.

They were no longer part of the “war effort” but were seen as a “threat to the British way of life”.

Over 10,000 West Indians volunteered to defend Britain against the Nazis during the Second World War. Among them was Donald Clarke. The RAF veteran was born in British Guyana. He enlisted during the war and served in the West Indies, then signed up for a further 12 years of service in 1948.

Donald was among the veterans who opened a new exhibition at the Imperial War Museum in London marking the contribution made to the war from the West Indies.

He made the journey to Britain onboard the Windrush in 1948.

“I was surprised by the hostility we experienced as we arrived at Tilbury docks,” he told Socialist Worker. “And for someone who was in the RAF I was shocked, because as colonials we had volunteered to fight for England.”

Money

Many people in the British empire took part in raising money to help the war effort – in addition to the extra taxes, raw materials and food that flowed from the colonies to support the war.

The total donated by the people in the colonies, in collections, loans and personal contributions, topped an amount equivalent to £6.1 billion today – a huge sacrifice in countries with searing levels of poverty where the vast majority of people earned less than the equivalent of £1 a day.

Some 15,000 black merchant seamen helped keep the vital supply routes open. The majority of them hauled coal on the older, slower ships. Over 5,000 perished at sea.

There were 520 workers from the West Indies working in munitions factories in Britain, and 800 forestry workers from British Honduras – now Belize – cutting timber in Scotland.

Probably one of the groups that has been the least recognised is the flying crews. Considered the elite of the armed forces, fighter pilots and bombing crews are always depicted as white and upper class.

There were, however, 400 black flying crews and 6,000 ground staff, serving on all fronts. These faces are missing from the raft of war films that appeared in the decades following the war.

The influx of black soldiers and workers during the war troubled sections of the establishment. Some British officers attempted to ban white women from mixing with the black soldiers.

The British Colonial Office at the time worried “what the future population of the nation would look like” – but kept its reservations secret until after the war was over.

The general racism, however, was harder to hide.

The arrival in Britain of 150,000 black US soldiers added to the moral panics about “racial mixing”.

Donald said, “The black Americans had a different experience from us. They all served together [the US army was racially segregated]. We were in mixed units.

“Many English people saw a black face and thought we came from Africa, or were black Americans.

We felt the British public were not very well informed about us.”

Many West Indians were targeted by white US soldiers from the South who were stationed in Britain. They often reacted with violence to finding “coloured limeys” mixing freely with white people in pubs.

In one case troops from the West Indies guarding prisoners of war in Egypt were attacked by white South African troops who objected to seeing black men carrying weapons.

Praise

The official line during the war was praise for the contribution “from the colonies”. But after the war ended the establishment became obsessed by racial mixing. The press ran stories highlighting the growing number of “piccaninnies” – a term of abuse describing children of mixed race.

Donald first met Doris at the end of the war. They were married in 1948 and settled in south London.

As a white woman, Doris was stunned by the levels of hostility and racism they faced.

She told Socialist Worker, “It was very hard for me, as most of my family were opposed to our marriage.

“In the end we remained friends with those who accepted Donald, and just ignored those who had a problem.”

Doris is still angry that the country that owed so much to the sacrifice of black soldiers could turn against them. But she was determined to resist the racist onslaught.

“We were young at the time, and felt it was two of us against the world,” she said.

Donald eventually bought himself out of the RAF and went to work for Royal Mail – one of the few jobs open to black men.

The racism became more pronounced in the 1960s, feeding the growth of the National Front – the forerunner of the Nazi BNP. By the late 1970s these attitudes began to change, Donald said.

“By then people got used to seeing black people, and most English people began to realise that all the things the press accused us of – that we would do ‘bad things’ – didn’t happen.

“Although I was often homesick, I have no regrets about making the journey. I tell young people today to stay committed to their dreams, don’t give up your goals.”

From War to Windrush is on at the Imperial War Museum, London, until 29 March 2009.
Go to » london.iwm.org.uk

Keep Smiling Through: Black Londoners on the Home Front 1939-1945 is on at the Cuming Museum, 151 Walworth Road, London. It runs until 1 November. Phone 020 7525 2332


If we do not have an accurate analysis of the problem, we cannot possibly develop a good strategy to resolve it.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#7 (permalink))
Old
Maat's Avatar
Maat is Offline
Villager Senior
Maat is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 1,492
Join Date: May 2004
Location: London
Default 29-06-08, 09:27 PM

Thanks for the info Tahliba. It makes me appreciate the pics on the African diaspora through picture thread more.


“If people around you aren't going anywhere, if their dreams are no bigger than hanging out on the corner, or if they're dragging you down, get rid of them. Negative people can sap your energy so fast, and they can take your dreams from you, too.”
Earvin “Magic” Johnson
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement

Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.bnvillage.co.uk/black-roots-village/99413-west-indian-migration-britain-1948-1962-a.html
Posted By For Type Date
African Caribbean Social Network This thread Refback 21-06-08 01:31 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
Internet Marketing by: Firm SEO
Ad Management by RedTyger