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    (Ladies this was sent to me via Email today)

    Guy's, Please take a few minutes to read this. I recently purchased a hair
    product from Pak Cosmetics. Those of you that are familiar with this Hair
    emporium will know that what they don't have is not worth having with
    regards to hair products (Well most of the time anyway!). Having got my
    purchase home I proceeded to immediately use my product, it wasn't until I
    started to read the label of the product that I realised that the product
    was some seven months out of date.

    The next day armed with my product the receipt and the my wealth of
    knowledge with regards to consumer law I returned the product to the Pak.
    On first approach the manager of the day was very nonchalant insinuating
    that it must be a miss print or that I was trying to pull a fast one.
    Reluctantly after much chanting of the sales of goods act etc... he offered
    me an exchange (after 20 minutes).

    When we returned to where the said product was shelved much to his surprise
    and after telling me about how they got this most recent order only last
    Friday we found that all 30 + items were out of date. He immediately took
    them off the shelf and started to reprimand a few members of staff for
    missing the over site all for my benefit of course!!

    Through this whole ordeal at no point was I offered an apology or even the
    offer of my money back. The manager uttered something in Urdu to another
    sales assistant and I was quickly ushered to the till for my money back and
    out of the store.

    On returning to the Pak a couple of days later the said products had been
    put back on the shelf!! - Well did you really think that they would miss an
    opportunity to make back the money they have now lost???

    Now guy's considering that we as black people do not own these business I
    am sick of the way we are being handled by the likes of the Pak who rely on
    us to make them the millionaires that they have become due to our laziness
    and lack of business sense! I have decided to put my money where my mouth
    is an d stop using shops like the Pak that treat as us second class
    nobodies, following us around their shops from the minute we get through
    the door, talking to us like S!"T, throwing money into our hands as in
    their culture black people are considered to be untouchables - SO WHY DO WE
    CONTINUE TO SHOP IN THESE ESTABLISHMENTS?? Some would argue that in the
    future I look at the shelf life of such products before I buy, in reality
    how many of us really do this especially for hair products?

    Had I gone into Sainsbury's or even Superdrug I would never have left the
    store with such discontent as I did at the Pak. I ask that you pass this
    message onto as many people as you know and support me with boycotting the
    Pak, one person alone cannot make a difference but as a collective we can.

    The Pak relies on our business, there's no sense in arguing with them as
    they know we will be back we have to get them were it hurts - AT THE TILL!!

    FOR ALL THE GENTLEMEN THAT HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE PLEASE FORWARD IT
    ONTO YOUR FEMALE FRIENDS, MOTHERS, COUSINS AND LOVED ONES! I have listed
    below locations where you will find the PAK and possible alternatives as
    there are many to choose from

    Pak Discount Cash & Carry 1, Library Parade, Craven Park Rd Harlesden
    London NW10 8SG
    PAK Supermarket 35, Stroud Green Rd London N4 3EF
    Pak Hair Boutique 34-36, Stroud Green Rd London N4 3ES
    Pak Hair World 31, Stroud Green Rd London N4 3EF
    Pak Cosmetic Centre 29, Chatsworth Rd London E5 0LH

    Alternatives
    Sally Hair & Beauty Supplies Ltd 166, High St Acton London W3 6QZ
    Tel: 020 8993 8003
    Beauty Queen Cosmetics No 1 18, Queens Market Upton Park London E13 9BA
    Sally Hair & Beauty Supplies Ltd 394, North End Rd Fulham London SW6 1LU
    Sally Hair & Beauty Supplies Ltd 81, Shaftsbury Avenue London W1D 5DU
    Afro World 7, Kingsland High St London E8 2JS
    Juliet's Afro Hair & Beauty Supply 120, Rye Lane Peckham London SE15 4RZ

    African heart, African mind


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    I don’t buy any hair products from Asian owned shops period; I boycotted them about 2 years ago after too much bad service and being talked down like if I’d gone to thief something when I am spending my hard earned cash.

    I prefer to shop at a black owned cosmetic shop or if there is non around super drugs is the alternative.

    But I’ll pass on the info to everyone I know though…

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    Pity that consumer didn't reportPAK to the Trading Standards office.

    Will do the same pass on as well.

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    it's time we all boycoted these stores, the people in them make me sick, they do not know anything about black hair, why are we overflowing their pockets?

    They secretly depise us but love us for spending so much money on hair products in their shops.

    They do not deserve our money.

    2 days ago me and my friend went to the one in finsbury park, my friend walked in ahead of me, asI stepped in the man at the till said something in his language. I looked at the man he spoke to, then watched him look at me and say something back, I kept on looking athimand glancedover at the man at the till,I continued to watch themso they knewI saw the two of themblatantly talking about me.I told my friend we should not be in here.

    I know there was a thread started a while ago about this and someone explained why the asian shops are so cheap and the black shops are more exspensive.

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    I've stopped shopping in their cosmetic shops long time ago not from any particular bad experience myself, but from the manipulative way that i saw them joking and talking to my fellow blacks.

    It makes me cringed withembarassment to even spend a penny more. I do hope my people live and learn and if there is not a black cosmetic insight they do without until they find other alternatives or worthy places to shop.

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    They say it's a small world i,m begining to think it is true couple weeks ago i wrote an article about these shops and how they treat us blacks printed out several copies and getting ready to distribute but the fear in me got the better of me.

    The reason was lots of blacks maybe would think i was ridiculous to write such things so i refrained from giving them out.

    It's a small world for the reason that i am not alone on this.

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    Do not let fear get the better of you.please hand them out, put one up in this thread if you can niceone.gifThere are many women and menwho will agree.I do not spend my money in these stores anymore, there arealternatives some arementioned in the first post. We need to support our black businesses.


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    @sista girl thanks, i will go find where i hid them from my nosy friends and put it out.

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    YESS YESSS A FULL TIME NOW BLACK PEOPLE SI DE TRUTE AN TAPP KID DEMSELF, NUH MATTA OW MUCH MONEY OUNU PEN DEM TILL A TREAT WI LIKE GARBARGE.

    @ALL A OUNU GOOD MI SUPPORT DIS 100%banana.gifEVERYBADDI MUS CUM TOGEDA AN DO DIS ONE, POWA TO DI PEOPLE, WELL DESERVED.

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    Synical behaviour and patronisation are just two of the obvious attitude displayed by the Asian shop keepers to black consumers. We the black consumers do not need an Asian shopkeeper pretending to comunicate with us whilst at the same time disrespecting us in their own language with their Asian counterparts. I was appalled at what I heard one Asian person said to another in his meat shop, I overheard him say that some of the meat that are sold to us blacks are near rot they would normally sell the freshest meat to their Asian friends and families alike.



    Black consumers must recognise the weight of their spending power on most consumable goods and services that these Asians so helplessly depending on us for, they cannot survive without us especially in the highly populated black community. To utilise the spending power black consumers need to spend more of their disposable income on consumer goods and services with black shop owners. Currently however there are not sufficient black owned shops. Black shopkeepers need to stock more of the goods and services that are required by black consumers.



    We as black consumers need to wake up and become aware of the insults that we are subjected to when coming into contact and exchanging goods and services with most of these Asians. We need to give our fellow blacks full support in their shops or whatever field they are into in order to overcome these atrocities that are inflicted upon us by these Asians or other nonblacks. It is very disturbing to see them treating us like this then turn around and open so many businesses in an all black area. It is also worrying to hear and see we as blacks complaining and then so many of us still won't cease from spending with them, we need to stop the madness right now live and learn.





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    i went to pak world in finsbury park some months ago. my friend took me there. i was suprised by their lustfullness and sleazy behaviour. and then men were quite old.

    where i live there is 2 black owned hair shops and we d use them. the asina shops including pak foods do store black products but people dont like to shop there.

    it would be nice if a black person could have a black world or something to challenge packs. dont think that pak alone sell out of date goods. as my friend purchased a tin good from an asian corner shop only to fond it was out of date they had covered the date with the price label
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    I am in agreement with you guys, we spend far, far too much of our "hard-earned" in these shops. I will not spend my money in Asian shops out of sheer principle relating to that which has been displayed here. I also "hear" the comment made by one poster regarding meat products, I don't trust them on that level at all. However, there is one Asian shop run by a really nice guy who employes blacks and has been in the area a number of years, believe me he is genuine, he's always, always polite and goes out of his way to get the products we want.None of this "we are one" crap, he's always been himself, peaceful and helpful.

    A couple of years ago a branch of Nubian Jack opened up a few yards away and I do go in there99% of the timeas they have wider choice although the girls have/had a very "don' cya" (don't care) attiitude until there were complaints and since then the customer service etiquette emerged rather quickly...lol.

    Shellyanne is right, we do not need to be treated as if we're less than nothing and it doesn't help when some black consumers actually buy into the "Stepin Fetchit" mode, it's infuriatingly cringe worthy in the extreme. I sometimes wonder if Asians "business people" had the majority rule during slavery, could you imagine how our ancestors would have been treated,I believe it would have been even worse than thewhite counterparts?

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    I say boycott Asian shops and lets have our own business's!!!!!!
    Authenticity means a lot to me

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    It is good to see that not all blacks are blind to the way these Asians treat us.

    I say boycott their business, it would be a relief to be served by own blacks.

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    tell me about it. My mom went into an Asian owned hair shop and this man served us and treated us really bad. My mom really went for it and said she wasn't going to go back if he treated us like that.
    Authenticity means a lot to me

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    Anni* wrote:
    tell me about it. My mom went into an Asian owned hair shop and this man served us and treated us really bad. My mom really went for it and said she wasn't going to go back if he treated us like that.
    You and you're mom are not alone love, these are some of the things that happen to us people on a daily basis. We depend on them for buspasses, topping up our electricity, and when they turn around treat us like this and some of us still go back no wonder these morons are begining to feel superior to us.
    My dear do not go back there you deserve to be treated better, as a matter of fact do not buy from any of these asian own shops.
    Look for other alternatives some are listed at the above, when you find these stick with it.

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    Where I live in the market, theres a stall which is owned by a black lady, so I buy all m,y hair product from there now. I think we should start getting our black products into mainstream shops
    Authenticity means a lot to me

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    @LADYDAY THAT IDEA IS GOOD PAK WORLD VERSES BLACK WORLD



    I DO NOT THINK WE COULD'VE COME UP WITH A BETTER NAME.

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    I was reading your article regarding PAK cosmetics, however felt concerned with aggression shown towards asian retailers.

    Yes we should support our own kind, but recently i attempted to return a product to a black retailer in south london, and was told i was unable. I asked to speak to the owner knowing she was a nigerian lady however she refused to speak to myself and she showed arrogance making myself feel ashamed.

    I now shop at an asian retailer but am greeted with a smile and help from the owner himself. It is a much larger store but am shown with more respect than my 'sister' retailer.

    Please lets not tarnish all asians with the same brush, as we are all foreighners in this country.

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    its not about agression its about eing able topurchase good from someon who has some form of experience with the product and can say well its good for your type of hair or may be you should try this etc. an asian cant do that. i buy hair from a ablack owned shop they have no problesm in returns
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    I agree with Trudi212 to some extend.............the town I live in we only have 2 hair&beaty retail shops that are owned and run by "Afro-sisters" and honestly speaking I used to shop in there but I stopped because of lack of decent customer service........... rudeness is the order of the day in them. If you dare ask a question the gestures you receive is as you're bothering them.......who needs that!!!

    AND yes once I tried to return some hair extensions that I had bought and were not suitable, they blatantly refused to exchange let alone refund!!!

    So nowadays If I need something urgently I would rather go in the Asian corner shops or even worse plan a trip to London where there is variety.

    Saying this I also have seen some awful degrading behaviour in those Asian shops in London in particular PAK(Finsbury Park), but only continue to go there coz they seem to stock almost everything and their prices are relatively ok.

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    I agree wholeheartedly with this thread,Asians shopkeepers have always been like that withAfrican-Caribbean consumers.

    It is one of the reasons why when I moved out of London and couldn't find anywhere to buyAfrican-Caribbeanhair and skin care products, I decided to open my own business (http://www.naturalfrizz.co.uk/shop)forAfrican-Caribbean people in a similar situation; before some Asian person latches on and decides to exploit thatuniquelyAfrican-Carribeanopportunity too.

    I used to buy some of my stock from Pak's but after reading all thearticles, I will no longer buy from them and stick to the other companys suggestedin addition tobuying directly from the manufacturers!
    clp)

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    @natfrizz you go girl we need more blacks like you, together we can do this and to all the people that are complaining that some blacks do not have all the goods, you are right, but do not forget that all those highly stocked asianshops were not like that until we the blacks started spending our money for their bussineses to grow.

    So therefore if we can spend and let asians grow we can also spend and let blacks grow. I say support your own comes what may if one black shop treat you bad find another black shop that will treat you good, not another hypocritical asian pretending to be down with you then when your back is turned they laughing at our black ass.

    America and England would not be so rich if they did not get the support of their own people, even if their own was doing bad they would rather cover it up for the betterment of their country and future not broadcast and degrade but unite.

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    I would agree with thte overall comments here. it is disgusting to see that we cannot support ourselves after all this time. The asians make a killing from us and as you all say are rude in the process. One thing I noticed, Do you ever see Asians in any of these shops ( Especially meat shops) - I don't think so. Recenly an Asian girl told me that they would never shop at such places as their food especially meat is of such low quality and is generally the scraps. But they just laugh and joke with us like they are doing us a favour when they are selling to us. It really is good to know that others are aware of this, sometimes youreally do feel you are the only one.

    If you have to pay a bit more, pay it, its worth it for our own I am sure.



    Good hair & beauty shop in Nottingham, owned by a polite, helpful black women who actually does not mind spending time with you browsing and selecting the right product, it is on Radford Road, Hyson Green.

    Everyone must let us know from their part of the country any good black stockist, lets make a GOOD POSITIVE START


 

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