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I have heard countless stories of Haitian people and voodoo and none of them are pretty. The evils of voodoo is tarnishing Haiti's reputation and many Haitians are blind to this fact. Recently I was told that a once normal functioning non-Haitian man was put under a voodoo love spell by a Haitian woman. The man apparently lost his mind and is unable to think on his own because of the cruel act thathas beendone to him. Haitians have got to stop practicing thesesatanic things it only makes them look bad and keep tourists away from their country.
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I have heard countless stories of Haitian people and voodoo and none of them are pretty. The evils of voodoo is tarnishing Haiti's reputation and many Haitians are blind to this fact. Recently I was told that a once normal functioning non-Haitian man was put under a voodoo love spell by a Haitian woman. The man apparently lost his mind and is unable to think on his own because of the cruel act thathas beendone to him. Haitians have got to stop practicing thesesatanic things it only makes them look bad and keep tourists away from their country.



This is a question, or more a statementfor the females so I will keep this brief. All this sounds like is that you do not know much about what voodoo really is. If you did you would know it is not satanic. It is however a spiritual system like any other which in the beginning had both a positive and negative side like christianity and islam have, an evil side and a good. However because of a great deal of negative proprganda against it people believe it to all be bone shaking, blood drinking, doll poking murder magic. You should research it. You would be interested to find that it is not completely negative.

You should also know that the propganda machine of the western world has been attacking haiti since they recieved that disgusting beating in the Hatian revolution. That is the reason why people do not go there, not because of large amounts of voodoo.

PS no i do not practice it I just have an interest in African spirituality so i research often.


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All religious/spiritual beliefs systems do have good and bad elements including Voodoo. Much of the voodoo that the Haitians practice is negative and needs to stop because it is not healthy. Voodoo is the native religion of black Africans and was around long before slavery and colonization came with Islam and Christianity. We must speak about the bad effects of this religion and seek to find ways to change it, instead of just embracing voodoo because it's African. The Voodoo love spells that the Haitians engage inis very harmful, hence this is one of the amendments that the religion needs. Voodoo, poverty, political instability are all reasons why tourist do not go to Haiti.
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All religious/spiritual beliefs systems do have good and bad elements including Voodoo. Much of the voodoo that the Haitians practice is negative and needs to stop because it is not healthy. Voodoo is the native religion of black Africans and was around long before slavery and colonization came with Islam and Christianity. We must speak about the bad effects of this religion and seek to find ways to change it, instead of just embracing voodoo because it's African. The Voodoo love spells that the Haitians engage inis very harmful, hence this is one of the amendments that the religion needs. Voodoo, poverty, political instability are all reasons why tourist do not go to Haiti.
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All religious/spiritual beliefs systems do have good and bad elements including Voodoo. Much of the voodoo that the Haitians practice is negative and needs to stop because it is not healthy. Voodoo is the native religion of black Africans and was around long before slavery and colonization came with Islam and Christianity. We must speak about the bad effects of this religion and seek to find ways to change it, instead of just embracing voodoo because it's African. The Voodoo love spells that the Haitians engage inis very harmful, hence this is one of the amendments that the religion needs. Voodoo, poverty, political instability are all reasons why tourist do not go to Haiti.

Ah good, someone who knows something about it for once, maybe I can learn something from you. This will be very interesting I'm sure.

Yes there are people practicing the negative side and i suspect those are the people who do not know all about the system and are just using the negative as a means of escaping the unnecessary poverty that they have been subjected to. However I do not agree that it is most. This is just from my experience but the people who I have met who do practice the religion and the positive side I mean, they all say that they have mostly met people who have practiced the positive side and have told me that it is the majority in the country. They have proclaimed that it is the minority who practice to hurt and abuse. They believe that it is the negative media portrayal that causes this belief that it is mostly the negative being practiced. However you sound like you know quite a bit and this is only from my experience second hand so obviously I cannot infer that these accounts are definitely true.

I agree that if it is the negative that is being practiced that something needs to be done. However I also believe that it should not be to stop it from happening outright but it should be to examine why these people feel the need to do this and what are the circumstances behind this boom in negative voodoo being practiced (simply because i definitely know that this was not always the way in haiti)

I do not wish to get too personal but I would like to know if you are from haiti if it is not too much to ask?


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It's one thing to 'practice' it in Haiti...and quite another to bring that mess with you to another country! Here aresomenews reports about this story....

:::Voodoo head found in air luggage:::

Human head found
US immigration officials have arrested a Haitian woman after baggage screeners found a human head in her luggage at a Florida airport.

Myrlene Severe, 30, has been charged with failing to declare the head on a customs form and transporting "hazardous material".

She arrived at Florida's Fort Lauderdale airport on Thursday on a flight from Cap Haitien in north Haiti.

Ms Severe said that the head was to ward off evil spirits, officials said.

"Severe stated that she had obtained the package, which contained a human head, from a male in Haiti for use as part of her voodoo beliefs," the US Attorney's Office said in a statement.

'Hair and skin'

A spokesman for Miami's immigration and customs agency told the AFP news agency that the head was not simply a skull.

"It had teeth, hair and skin, and quite a lot of dirt," she said.

Ms Severe, a US resident, appeared in court on Friday in Fort Lauderdale. She could face up to 15 years in prison if convicted.Voodoo head found in air luggage

Myrlene Severe and a US official getting into a car

::::Human head found::::
US immigration officials have arrested a Haitian woman after baggage screeners found a human head in her luggage at a Florida airport.

Myrlene Severe, 30, has been charged with failing to declare the head on a customs form and transporting "hazardous material".

She arrived at Florida's Fort Lauderdale airport on Thursday on a flight from Cap Haitien in north Haiti.

Ms Severe said that the head was to ward off evil spirits, officials said.

"Severe stated that she had obtained the package, which contained a human head, from a male in Haiti for use as part of her voodoo beliefs," the US Attorney's Office said in a statement.

'Hair and skin'

A spokesman for Miami's immigration and customs agency told the AFP news agency that the head was not simply a skull.

"It had teeth, hair and skin, and quite a lot of dirt," she said.

Ms Severe, a US resident, appeared in court on Friday in Fort Lauderdale. She could face up to 15 years in prison if convicted.

The practice of voodoo, an Afro-Caribbean religion whose roots go back thousands of years, is still widespread in Haiti.

The Haitian government officially recognised voodoo as a religion in 2003.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4703328.stm

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:::No Prison For Woman With Human Head In Luggage:::
Myrlene Severe Sentenced to 2 Years Probation
She Must Also Pay a $1,000 Fine
FT. LAUDERDALE A Miramar woman, who brought a human skull into the United States through Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport will not go to prison. Instead, 30-year old Myrlene Severe was sentenced in federal court Friday to two years probation and charged a $1,000 fine.

Kenneth Hassett, Severe’s attorney, said his client did not know she was committing a crime when she brought the skull from Haiti on February 9 because she truly believes in Vodoo. Hassett said she was exercising her religious beliefs when she brought the skull on the plane because she believed it would protect her.

Federal agents found the skull, with strands of black curly hair, in Severe's luggage after her Lynx Airline flight arrived from Haiti. It was nestled in a cotton rice bag along with a banana leaf, dirt, small stones and a rusty iron nail.

Severe originally was charged with three federal felonies: intentionally smuggling a human head into the United States; not having the proper paperwork; and bringing hazardous material onto an airplane. The charges were later downgraded to a misdemeanor for illegally storing human remains.

Severe did not speak at Friday's hearing and declined to talk to reporters afterward.

It is against the law to bring human body parts into the United States without paperwork indicating a proper scientific use such as medical research or transplant.

Severe is a permanent legal U.S. resident. ''She's happy with the result and she'd like to move on with her life,'' Hassett said. "She would like to become a U.S. citizen. She will continue her belief.'' http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_202104816.html

All I know is..I'd hate to eat anything this woman cooked!confused3

TheUnited States needs to close it's borders. It has enough nuts here already!





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You are not being personal and I don't come from Haiti.
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Check this thread out:

http://www.ligali.org/forums/index.p...ic=2416&hl=


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It's one thing to 'practice' it in Haiti...and quite another to bring that mess with you to another country! Here aresomenews reports about this story....
It was already in the US... you as a southerner should know.


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What was 'already' in the U.S?? Voodoo?

Who's a southerner? Certainly not me! I'm way above the Mason/Dixon line...--
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What was 'already' in the U.S?? Voodoo?
http://www.neworleansvoodoocrossroads.com/






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What...? Did you actually think I was trying to imply that voodoo is a new phenomenon here in the America's? confused3Why would I be so stupid as to make such an idiotic statement when it's been in this country for well over 600 years; Ever since the first African slave hit it's shores...niceone.gifI was attempting to show a more recent public article that it is still here and going just as strong...by immigrants coming, staying, believing in and strongly practicing it. Most Black people here have no idea...while some themselves, especially those from certain parts of the south; do practice and engage in it.

That's why my momma always told us to never sit down and eat everybody's food....

(Hmph! You don't know where their hands have BEEN! LOL!)


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