In today’s society, why is how much a guy loves you measured, not by what he says, nor by what good he does, but by how much he spends on you?

Why is how much is in his wallet more important than how much is in his heart; for example, I have never ever heard of a guy who shows of his engagement ring; nor have I ever heard of a guy who boasts about what his partner did for him on Valentines Day.

As we approach Valentines Day, commercial records from the past, suggest that men will provide approx 87% of the wealth generated on this day and for most women, a card is about the limit of their imagination.

Of those women who do make an effort to fully partake in this commercial exercise, I would love to know what is the most romantic thing, for you; not what has been done for you but that you have done for another... and if you were brave another to ask (in a leap year) a another to marry you, what financial tabs would you be willing to pick up (after all you did do the asking)?

EF Max - as the resident village cocksman only second to BP, I'd expect you to know the answer by now...but then I know you have your opinion but just want to throw some corn to the masses. Women are inherentlty selfish, they want everything and expect everything and mostly for just shaking some ass...even the buttas dem - how many women do you hear say they aint dating a particular guy because he is high maintenance...precisely, none....even if she is loaded with money.

Women expect everything for no other reason than being women. Because of this they have no appreciation of gratitude. You are right about another thing, the times we live in now where cock-sucka comes a dime a dozen and the concious-sista gets lost in the furore.

But there's a flip side. I find myself in a small recess of life where my opinions and values offend men as well as women so I tend to get it from both sides but here goes......If you really want to know the truth, men lead, women follow, if women are this way it's because of men like you. when women in life or on this site are defending themselves against men who for the most part are consumer led wotliss womanising low lives, it's sad to admit but they aint all that wrong......I've encouraged many of these men to change their ways

So there you have it, I wouldn't say you're one of those common carcases and believe you're like me not into the dime a dozen stuff. The west has created a society that feeds on our weaknesses and our vice, the numbers speak for themselves. Valentines like everything else is economy driven, I wouldn't support sh!t like that any more than I'd buy a tabloid newspaper or a pack of fags.

EF Max - sorry, was supposed to say the real question is who creates such sh!t like Valentines, men or women? It's like the dildo, as a man you can't invent it then complain when your services are no longer required. Well can't say for sure if a man invented it but you get my drift

EF, in my opinion I think that Valentine's day is a special day to so many women. Not partiularly as regards to what they will receive but in their way an opportunity for 'their' men to renew love and most especially an appreciation. Valentine's day being a day of giving also affords some women a chance to receive from some men who are so caught up in day to day life that they have for one reason or another not taken time to appreciate 'their' women; be it through gesture or by giving or doing something tangible.

I would also like to state that as much as there are women who are materialistic, there are women who are understanding and wouldnt ask for alot but to spend extra time and perhaps be more treasured on Valentines'.

Seeing as it is a Leap Year, I hope that many women out their can are bestowed with men whose mindsets dont see Valentines as a chore or a day of pressure but one of appreciation for the woman that they have been bestowed with and be able to show it within their means and ofcourse vis a visa.

If I am honest, my mindset has probably been tainted from previous relationships.. one comes to mind a lot as I write here.. This was where the woman that I loved and lived with was cared for and loved everyday of each of our years together and then last leap year, her good frmale friend said to her, how boring it must be to be with a guy, who does you breakfast in bed most days, cooks special meals most days, does most of the domestic stuff and finds time to be mega affectionate and take care of his business, plus he also buys you gifts that you have not even asked for.. she went on to say and I quote "just what the hell does he do for you that is special".. she left me a few months later and I know from other people, that conversation played heavy on her mind and decision making.

Her mother also told me off for doing too much for her daughter and said that she would never appreciate it all.. Mum was right..

The whole situation does leave you wondering and when other women behave in a similar way, it does make you wonder why romance is so one sided.. but I do appreciate your input as it does make good sense.. as I know that woman was a fool and history has proved me right..

EF Max - to those kind of women, a good man is simply a man other than the one they currently have...in fact a bad man is the new good if the current one is good. Worse you have a woman with a string of ex boyfriends, forget love, you need to be indulging in some bizarre sex to hold that down.

Valentines? Millions of babyfathers can't all be wrong. It's all written down rude boy, don't be trying to reinvent the wheel. Can I ask you what colour this woman was as I know brothas are flocking to white women in droves and black women will have you belive it's because white women are easy, as if you want to be coming home every night for a bull fight or something lol.

Any man in a relationship with a woman has women or a woman on the side. Women expect this and even expect to be that woman on the side because they all know how women stay...they can hardly tolerate each other, why do you think they expect a man to which is why they get as much as they can while they can.

Some men dig their own graves I tell you lol. Still, my new wife just brings out the romantic in me, man I'm all writing poems to that mofo lol, sent my first Valentines e-card as well to raatid, all me and interflora are bredrins to backside...yeah man, anything to make wifey pop style on her grey colleagues at work...you know when those flowers et delivered it's pure shine teet...any day of the week rotflmao.

EF M - believe me some of the stuff I heard my ex saying you just know the calibre of woman feeding her. Get this straight, what you believe you are doing for your woman is nothing special, they expect these things. Even if they have never received it before when they get it they simply think it is something they were always entitled to...basically you aint doing them anything special, you're just doing what you do.

I know some generous selfless women so there are some but in this day and age, you're safer sampling everyone with the same spoon until you find the exceptions to the rule.

All that stuff you said you were doing sounds like she had you as a mascot....don't mind sharp all got you in the yard scrubbing out panty back. Traditionally boys checked girls so Valentine's will always be seen as boys checking girls before anything else..even now women are liberated to check boys and tell them what they want, when it comes to spending those dollars it's a different thing....even if they spend it leave them for another woman and they're looking to get that money back.

Chris Rock asked the question of women, what is it you want....EVERYTHING!!!

Listen to Shine Eye Girl by Barrington Levi....and listen keenly.

Just one more pop.....when I discovered who my ex wife really was, the biggest surprise was when she colluded with the enemies to bring me down, everyone would talk about me saying things they already know...the things you took for granted that they all knew about.

This was a big player in my consciousness because for me I found out about her and them, stuff I didn't know before yet all they were coming with were things I believed they has accepted years ago...I mean why else where they hanging about...what were they tolerating me for...pity?

Admittedly one of the dudes told me abouyt dashing a belly and I kind of feel it for him as he told me in confidence and as a bredrin but when we had a clash about values I kind of used it as evidence against him. Still no biggie.

Also listen to Devil in disguise by Elvis Presley...yeah looks like an angel, walks like an angel, talks like an angel.....she's the devil in disguise. The west is built on how you look, watch out for those women with no depth....the only thing they are defending is their face. The may even be academically astute but still selfishly dim.

Valentines and anything else comes on merit...you don't get it just because you're a female lol.