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I have always had self esteem issues but as I've gotten older and grown into myself I felt as though I've overcame them.

Men have often complimented me and told me that I am pretty/beautiful/could be a model etc. But when I hang out with another female freind men will walk up and talk to them and not me. I just stand there looking like an idiot. It's like they'll take a good look at us and strike up a conversation with the other friend even if she isn't as attractive as I am. It never fails. Years ago, once my friend and I went through the drive thru at McDonald's and some guy looked right over me and asked for my friend's number in the passenger's seat. It was a real blow to the ego because I just got my hair done and I was dressed really nice, everyone told me how great I looked. Don't let it be a freind who is lightskin then I really go ignored (I am a darkskin) I feel like an ugly beast. Once I went to the mall with my lightskin best friend, and in the shoe store the salesguy completely ignored me and acted as if I didn't exist as he was chatting up a conversation with her. I even asked him a question and he didn't even answer me. Yet I visited this same store again by myself, and then he suddenly notices me and says I am beautiful. I don't get it. Am I only beautiful by myself

Even in class, there is this guy who is in my group who I can tell is attracted to me. AT least I think he is. Everytime I walk pass in the hallway he notices me and is eyeing me down (I see him doing this in the corner of my eye). Yet in class when we are doing our group project he talks to all the other women but me. He'll say a few words to me and keep it short.

When this happens I start to feel unattractive and maximize any small flaw I have about myself. I end up going home feeling incredibly ugly and never wanting to hang out with another group of women again. Sometimes I think of things I can do to correct my appearance; plastic surgery etc I just hate being looked over everytime i hang out with some female friends, I just don't have a good time. Even in clubs I hate being amongst other women because I feel like i don't have as much to offer as them. I feel like it takes too much to get noticed when you're in a room filled with other women, even if they aren't attractive. I don't have enough personality, flair, humor or confidence to stand out.

I am single 23, and haven't been in a serious relationship. I have no luck with men. I make sure I dress nice and look great but I don't know. Maybe I need to change something about myself.

can someone give me a few pearls of wisdom on this?

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Oh no, I wonder how this is going to pan out. Queue the usual suspects with a helping hand


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Welcome to the forum BrownBone110. Men are just men. That's how they act. You don't need to change yourself to please men. Many men do favor light skin. You are not ugly, so do not lighten your skin or do anything else to alter your facial features via plastic surgery. The guy who you say is attracted to you, but likes talking to other women probably thinks it's good to be in the presence of other women. Many men like the company of more than one woman. They are womanizers. The right one will come along for you one day.
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Welcome to the forum BrownBone110. Men are just men. That's how they act. You don't need to change yourself to please men. Many men do favor light skin. You are not ugly, so do not lighten your skin or do anything else to alter your facial features via plastic surgery. The guy who you say is attracted to you, but likes talking to other women probably thinks it's good to be in the presence of other women. Many men like the company of more than one woman. They are womanizers. The right one will come along for you one day.
Yeah but he specifically ignores me. I am a nice person, not full of myself or anything, and I just don't understand why I am shut out. I'm not pressed for a relatinship with him but it makes things uncomfortable the way he goes out of his way to not notice me. It's not even that serious. I'm just trying to get to know ppl that's all.

I'm not having luck with men at all...another guy in a different class does this as well. I think the girl who sits next to him is his girlfriend, but sometimes she will strike up a conversation with me and he'll get real silent and look agitated. Or even if I don't say anything at all..he just acts funny. i'm not sure if he has something against darkskin girls or what cause some guys just don't like us--his friend is light.

i'm having issues relating to men IMO what can I possibly do to change this. I feel like I give off a aura that I am not approachable..but i don't know what to do about it. i am just very paranoid and don't want to live my life alone because of this
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nope...you gotta help yourself homie.




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I think you do may actually have a problem. I'm not being mean. But there is really just no way anyone can help you. Like Black Power said you have to find a way to help yourself. Try talking to a psychologist.
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When I read your post I didnt know whether to bust out laughing or to feel sorry for you..... then it occured to me you might be a mole....... in any case I will respond as though you are genuine in your post.

No offence, but the problems lies with you..... you come across as someone who has serious self esteem problems more than you realise.... also I sense a bit of envy towards your "so called" good looking friends. If you look in the mirror and see yourself as beautiful and actually believe that, you will start to exhibit the behavior that men will notice. If men only notice you when you're on your own, then it means that when you are by yourself you feel confident, so it shows and men react accordingly, as soon as you are surrounded by other females your insecurities surface, and you retreat into this 'i'm busted' way of thinking that will manifest itself in your body language and you'll become invisible.

No doubt that some men will crash a car looking at light skin woman, but alot of men also see past that, you just have to over come your insecurities real quick, coz you will ruin any future relationships you might have as you start to consistently accuse him of all sorts of things that aren't happening...... mainly challenging his decision to choose you.


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I have always had self esteem issues but as I've gotten older and grown into myself I felt as though I've overcame them.

Men have often complimented me and told me that I am pretty/beautiful/could be a model etc. But when I hang out with another female freind men will walk up and talk to them and not me. I just stand there looking like an idiot. It's like they'll take a good look at us and strike up a conversation with the other friend even if she isn't as attractive as I am. It never fails. Years ago, once my friend and I went through the drive thru at McDonald's and some guy looked right over me and asked for my friend's number in the passenger's seat. It was a real blow to the ego because I just got my hair done and I was dressed really nice, everyone told me how great I looked. Don't let it be a freind who is lightskin then I really go ignored (I am a darkskin) I feel like an ugly beast. Once I went to the mall with my lightskin best friend, and in the shoe store the salesguy completely ignored me and acted as if I didn't exist as he was chatting up a conversation with her. I even asked him a question and he didn't even answer me. Yet I visited this same store again by myself, and then he suddenly notices me and says I am beautiful. I don't get it. Am I only beautiful by myself

Even in class, there is this guy who is in my group who I can tell is attracted to me. AT least I think he is. Everytime I walk pass in the hallway he notices me and is eyeing me down (I see him doing this in the corner of my eye). Yet in class when we are doing our group project he talks to all the other women but me. He'll say a few words to me and keep it short.

When this happens I start to feel unattractive and maximize any small flaw I have about myself. I end up going home feeling incredibly ugly and never wanting to hang out with another group of women again. Sometimes I think of things I can do to correct my appearance; plastic surgery etc I just hate being looked over everytime i hang out with some female friends, I just don't have a good time. Even in clubs I hate being amongst other women because I feel like i don't have as much to offer as them. I feel like it takes too much to get noticed when you're in a room filled with other women, even if they aren't attractive. I don't have enough personality, flair, humor or confidence to stand out.

I am single 23, and haven't been in a serious relationship. I have no luck with men. I make sure I dress nice and look great but I don't know. Maybe I need to change something about myself.

can someone give me a few pearls of wisdom on this?


Welcome to the forum first of all.

I can't speak for every man and I've been out of the dating scene for a long time now, however I think this light skinned thing you're using is simply a cop out for one, sorry. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I'm tired of a lot of females using that excuse to save face. Just because you happen to be of a darker a hue doesn't mean a man is automatically going to bypass you to speak to your friend - plus you haven't mentioned if all your friends are lighter than you which I doubt.

Have you considered that you may be manifesting an obvious lack of confidence by your demeanor and/or what you say (and I have a strong feeling this is what it is.....)? Do you come across as standoffish and don't know it? Are you socially awkward? Or do you walk around with a sense of entitlement?

These are things you need to ask yourself or maybe a close friend who can be honest with you? You might have to prepare to hear some serious home truths you may not like.

Some guys are simply idiots, just like how you have idiotic women. However not every guy is gonna feel you and you ain't gonna feel every guy - that's just life. I'm sure you'll reject somebody if you didn't like his vibe or found him ugly. If I'm gonna be honest I feel sorry for y'all in the dating scene in these times cos things are more ruthless now and the pain of rejection can be a be a real mutha, but at the same time you have to know how to play the game.

Start exhibiting more confidence and just relax a bit and you'll notice things will change eventually.

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Welcome to the forum first of all.

I can't speak for every man and I've been out of the dating scene for a long time now, however I think this light skinned thing you're using is simply a cop out for one, sorry. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I'm tired of a lot of females using that excuse to save face. Just because you happen to be of a darker a hue doesn't mean a man is automatically going to bypass you to speak to your friend - plus you haven't mentioned if all your friends are lighter than you which I doubt.

Have you considered that you may be manifesting an obvious lack of confidence by your demeanor and/or what you say (and I have a strong feeling this is what it is.....)? Do you come across as standoffish and don't know it? Are you socially awkward? Or do you walk around with a sense of entitlement?

These are things you need to ask yourself or maybe a close friend who can be honest with you? You might have to prepare to hear some serious home truths you may not like.

Some guys are simply idiots, just like how you have idiotic women. However not every guy is gonna feel you and you ain't gonna feel every guy - that's just life. I'm sure you'll reject somebody if you didn't like his vibe or found him ugly. If I'm gonna be honest I feel sorry for y'all in the dating scene in these times cos things are more ruthless now and the pain of rejection can be a be a real mutha, but at the same time you have to know how to play the game.

Start exhibiting more confidence and just relax a bit and you'll notice things will change eventually.

How can you say it's a cop out, and then acknowledge it does happen? I feel as though even if it is true, you would still rule it out no matter what. Because in my case, it IS true. But of course you don't want to face it, which makes my situation even more depressing. That's why I don't like talking about this with black men, you are never honest about looking over dark sistas for a lightskin one.

I don't know how I come across. We can think of a trillion vibes I might send to out to people, but at the end of the day this is who I am. I really don't think I can control how I come across to other people. When I go out, I carry myself just like everybody else.
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When I read your post I didnt know whether to bust out laughing or to feel sorry for you..... then it occured to me you might be a mole....... in any case I will respond as though you are genuine in your post.

No offence, but the problems lies with you..... you come across as someone who has serious self esteem problems more than you realise.... also I sense a bit of envy towards your "so called" good looking friends. If you look in the mirror and see yourself as beautiful and actually believe that, you will start to exhibit the behavior that men will notice. If men only notice you when you're on your own, then it means that when you are by yourself you feel confident, so it shows and men react accordingly, as soon as you are surrounded by other females your insecurities surface, and you retreat into this 'i'm busted' way of thinking that will manifest itself in your body language and you'll become invisible.

No doubt that some men will crash a car looking at light skin woman, but alot of men also see past that, you just have to over come your insecurities real quick, coz you will ruin any future relationships you might have as you start to consistently accuse him of all sorts of things that aren't happening...... mainly challenging his decision to choose you.


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Men notice me on my own because no one else is around me that's why. You can't always use the confidence argument.

I'll just hang by myself from now on.
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I don't think Prince Hakeem is like other black men who overlook dark women for light women.
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I don't think Prince Hakeem is like other black men who overlook dark women for light women.
I just find it emotionally distressing how he dismissed black men overlooking dark sistas as a cop out. No matter how true it may be, black men will always rule this out. And this cycle keeps happening over and over again. I wish it were all in my head, but it's not.