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Hmm ,

Just started this book and it's quite good.




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Facsinating character for all the right and wrong reasons andn a moral tale for many a black man. Will say no more.

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Post imported post - 13-12-06, 04:28 PM

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You should be a book critic as you've summed him up in one sentance, I am on page 50 of 500 and the book provides a really good insight into just how racist America was and a good overview of contemporary life for the average African American and in Johnsons case the above average.

Along with the question mark of the numerous "Mrs Jack Johnsons".

It sort of connects an obvious role model for Cassius Clay'sand Muhummad Ali rejection of the "ghost" of Falstaff.

Highly reccommended read.

Things , racism, are played out so much subtler now.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Johnson_%28boxer%29


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What year is the book and who is the author?



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Published 2006

Publisher Pimlico

Author Geofferey C Ward

"Winner of the William Hill Sports Book of the year 2006.

You read this and what happened to Joe Louis, M Ali or Tyson becomes more than a coincidence. As for the Rocky Story read into it : "the Great White Hope" of Jim Jefferies etal

It's a must read for sure.




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Post imported post - 16-01-07, 12:15 PM

Funny enough was watching a ESPN Classic programme of Boxing greats and Jack Johnson's "story" and career was highlighted.

Will definately read the above mentioned books.


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Post imported post - 03-02-07, 07:42 PM

Have you ever read about or seen racism so very dumb... so ridicolously childish that despite it's nastiness it actually makes you laugh? I mean the lengths these crazy white folk went to and the things they said and wrote... This book with quotes and newspaper stories from the time will show you the nature of the white racist mind as nothing else could.

I'm halfway through now, have read the rise and am now reading the fall.


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Are you enjoyingthe bookthough?

The racism of the time was intense.


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Oh yeah I'm emjoying it, the detail is fascinating. The author really brings Johnson to life.


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Jack Johnson's story is remarkable.

Interesting tidbits: Johnson, who grew up in Galveston, Texas (USA) -- residing literally a city block or so from where I was reared -- was a product of an environment that was very much unlike most of the southern USA at that time. During the late 1880s of Johnson's upbringing, Galveston was a booming port city on the Gulf of Mexico, and was a location where many African-Americans converged to find viable means to make a living that were unavailable elsewhere in that region. Additionally, the local African-American community then was also populated with a substantial number of professionally-trained educators who had already descended to Galveston during the Reconstruction era that followed the Civil War. Recall that Galveston was also the seaport through which Civil War-era President Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was first introduced and enforced in the former Confederacy.

This all had a large role to play in Jack Johnson's social outlook and intellectual foundation. For more information regarding Jack Johnson, I recommend the book, Island of Color: Where Juneteenth Started, written by Izola Fedford Collins (my mother).

Island of Color also provides insight regarding Jack Johnson's somewhat controversial social choices, explaining that his childhood's racial climate was far less polarized than was most of the Old South. Galveston's public accommodations were not functionally segregated until Texas later adopted so-called "Jim Crow" laws that other southern USA states enacted expressly to nullify Reconstruction era reforms.



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Default 08-07-07, 05:17 PM

I wasn't aware there was a book about him, could someone send details-ISBN number/Pulishers ect Would like to buy a copy for my oldest son, we have a family connection with him.

Is the phrase, A Jack Johnson meaning a punch, used in the US? It is a very common phrase used particularly amongst older people here in the UK.


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Default 08-07-07, 05:41 PM

I know this is a book review thread but...



Vs Jefferies 1910



Vs Moran France 1914 (commentary on this one is in French)



Vs Ketchel


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