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08-12-07, 03:37 PM
All that good hair Vs bad hair nonsense is down to the coolies (black asians) in our midst. It has nothing to do with us wanting to be like caucasians, its perpetuated by the Coolies who seem to enjoy mocking InI African Carribeans and our Fibonacci* type hair.
The same could be said of InI women and their liking of hair perm products, they're not trying to be like caucasians, as we all know the North east africans wore wigs and managed their hair just as they do today its can then be said that African women have always felt a bit envious of their Black Asian sistren.
To reiliterate, next time you're in the barber shop and one woman starts talking about someones hair being ''good'' and someone elses as being ''bad'' its likely that shes Coolie or admiring them somewhat as they have always done. It has nothing to do with wanting to be european, the same is seen on the continent where the women haven't had the interaction with caucasians to want to be like them in anyway.
The whole hair debacle is down to us reinstating our Black African pride as our natural Fibonacci hairstyle is unique, no other race on the planet has curly hair as we do. The Mau Mau and the Rastas grew their hair in locks as a sign of defiance as non conformists affirming that they were black and weren't about to take on the culture of another peoples in denial of their African selves. A racial/cultural line was crossed as Black Asians were enslaved with us during tha Maafa and shipped to the diaspora whereas they sought to make distinction between us and themselves the most obvious being our hair.
Have been saying this for a while but had to put one coolie straight the other day. Dyamn gyal was going on about how her hair was good roughing up the lions 'fro talking about how it was bad  proper making a discussion out of it 'bout how her son has good hair and that her family all have good hair blah blah... had to remind the woman that shes Coolie that she is an ASIAN mix, did dent her Jamaican pride something good, next phone call had the gyal shouting and screaming about how shes ' 'not no damn asian'' cussing like she wants to be African .lol.
Straight hair = Afro-Central asian.
Fibonacci type hair = African.
Nothing to do with caucasians.
*In reference to the Fibonacci number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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08-12-07, 04:17 PM
Interesting that this thread is posted in the Caribbean NEWS village section..... must be that this is a Caribbean problem.... wonder where the thread about where the 90% of weave and wig buying women hail from should be posted?
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08-12-07, 06:45 PM
Could only relate to this one from my experience as a Carribean, not sure if the African Americans and C.Africans still carry on with all that good hair bad hair nonsense the Coolies seem to enjoy perpetuating in the Carribean. If they do it would be the same.
The cauc-asians are of course the albino relatives of the African-asians which is why their later attack on the Indus was so harsh, their classing the African Asians as, ''untouchables'' probably/definitely stems from the initial treatment of the African Asians toward them as pale skin and yellow hair (as is detailed in Leviticus and Deuteronomy in the bible) is a sign of Leprosy and illness. Albinos in Africa receive similar harsh treatment on the continent, resigned to staying in the shade to avoid cancer. The cauc-asians though had the chance to move to a less harsh climate and in time grew in number, resentful toward the African Asians for not accepting them, they came back and reversed the situation, casting them as, ''untouchables'' something that they would have been over the years... all the while mixing in with them hence the typical love hate trait of the caucasians.
A white minority - www.theage.com.au
It took a while for the Aryans to conquer India due to their mixing with the African Asians, making it taboo to touch them and perverting their religion to a form of classism (and creating superior weaponry) was the only way they could finally conquer and keep hold of India.
Bit of waffle there, was only supposed to go into the whole, ''untouchable'' thing. .lol.
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09-12-07, 04:53 PM
@Black Lion. Correct me if Im wrong but Im right in assuming Coolies/Indians have not been in the Caribbean that long?? They are originally from India right?? I thought they only came to the the Caribbean at the beginning of the 20th Century? I have also noticed some these Indian-Caribbeans never want to call themselves what they are Indians!
Continental Africans have had plenty of contact with Caucasians, it was called colonialism. Hence why many African countries had to fight for their independence from europeans. You mentioned the Mau Mau's who were Kenyan so you should know this already, as they led the fight for independence in Kenya. The Indians in Kenya are on the same tip thinking they are better than the indigenous black population. But there isn't the same amount of mixing that happens in the Caribbean.
I think Coolies have just perpetuated the feelings of inferiority that some African-Caribbeans felt about their features and hair. They tapped into the nonsense and ran with it. Also because the coolies have straighter hair they therefore deem themselves closer to europeans, therefore by proxy THINK they are better than us. If everything is measured by a european standard then it would follow they would think they are better than us if their hair is straighter......
All this good hair vs bad hair has everything to do with europeans.
Everything comes back IMO to some people wanting to resemble a European aesthetic hence why some choose to bleach their skin, blond hair colour/weaves etc.
Hence why in ALL cultures the lighter you are, the straighter your hair etc the more desirable you are deemed. Why is that?? Because you are closer to resembling a european
We all self concious, Im just the first to admit it...
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09-12-07, 05:36 PM
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@Black Lion. Correct me if Im wrong but Im right in assuming Coolies/Indians have not been in the Caribbean that long?? They are originally from India right?? I thought they only came to the the Caribbean at the beginning of the 20th Century? I have also noticed some these Indian-Caribbeans never want to call themselves what they are Indians!
Continental Africans have had plenty of contact with Caucasians, it was called colonialism. Hence why many African countries had to fight for their independence from europeans. You mentioned the Mau Mau's who were Kenyan so you should know this already, as they led the fight for independence in Kenya. The Indians in Kenya are on the same tip thinking they are better than the indigenous black population. But there isn't the same amount of mixing that happens in the Caribbean.
I think Coolies have just perpetuated the feelings of inferiority that some African-Caribbeans felt about their features and hair. They tapped into the nonsense and ran with it. Also because the coolies have straighter hair they therefore deem themselves closer to europeans, therefore by proxy THINK they are better than us. If everything is measured by a european standard then it would follow they would think they are better than us if their hair is straighter......
All this good hair vs bad hair has everything to do with europeans.
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You are so right about this. Even w/out the presence of Africans Asian Indians have a color/hair complex amongst themselves. Indians are notorious for being outspoken about their culture's preference for "fairer" skin. A dark or african mixed coolie in Indian country would feel this in a negative way, where as, as you mentioned, in presence of Africans, in their minds, now their looks are preferential.
Speaking from the pov of someone who's been labeled as having "good hair" I think it's an ignorant statement that needs to die. By european standards my hair is frizzy and unruly. Even white girls w/the slightest bit of curl spend hours a week blowdrying and straightening their hair.
Although I think it has started w/European ideology it is up to Africans to create our own. I know plenty of women who would not want any other hair sitting on their heads, and they are usually the most self-assured and confident ones.
But it shouldn't take CONFIDENCE just to go with one's natural style, but unfortunately society has made this almost a necessity and which, as a result, many women who are natural are sensed to have a certain level of confidence.
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09-12-07, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbutterfly182
@Black Lion. Correct me if Im wrong but Im right in assuming Coolies/Indians have not been in the Caribbean that long?? They are originally from India right?? I thought they only came to the the Caribbean at the beginning of the 20th Century? I have also noticed some these Indian-Caribbeans never want to call themselves what they are Indians!
Continental Africans have had plenty of contact with Caucasians, it was called colonialism. Hence why many African countries had to fight for their independence from europeans. You mentioned the Mau Mau's who were Kenyan so you should know this already, as they led the fight for independence in Kenya. The Indians in Kenya are on the same tip thinking they are better than the indigenous black population. But there isn't the same amount of mixing that happens in the Caribbean.
I think Coolies have just perpetuated the feelings of inferiority that some African-Caribbeans felt about their features and hair. They tapped into the nonsense and ran with it. Also because the coolies have straighter hair they therefore deem themselves closer to europeans, therefore by proxy THINK they are better than us. If everything is measured by a european standard then it would follow they would think they are better than us if their hair is straighter......
All this good hair vs bad hair has everything to do with europeans.
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You are so right about this. Even w/out the presence of Africans, Asian Indians have a color/hair complex amongst themselves. Indians are notorious for being outspoken about their culture's preference for "fairer" skin. A dark or african mixed coolie in Indian country would feel this in a negative way, where as, as you mentioned, in presence of Africans, in their minds, now their looks are preferential.
Speaking from the pov of someone who's been labeled as having "good hair" I think it's an ignorant statement that needs to die. By european standards my hair is frizzy and unruly. Even white girls spend hours each week blowdrying and straigtening any evidence of curl out of their hair.
Although I think it has started w/European ideology it is up to Africans to create our own. I know plenty of women who would not want any other hair sitting on their heads, and they happen to be self-assured and confident, but not because they are natural.
It shouldn't take CONFIDENCE just to go with one's natural style any more than one should have to feel confident in order to be African, but unfortunately society has made this almost a necessity and which, as a result, many women who are natural are automatically assumed to have a certain level of confidence. It's as patronizing as revering a woman for being dark and~~>[yet] beautiful.
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09-12-07, 06:28 PM
There is no such thing as African Asians. The people over there are not black people of African descent.
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09-12-07, 07:48 PM
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There is no such thing as African Asians. The people over there are not black people of African descent.
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I forgot to put the comma. it's supposed to say ...Africans, Asian Indians...
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10-12-07, 10:56 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm right in assuming Coolies/Indians have not been in the Caribbean that long?? They are originally from India right?? I thought they only came to the the Caribbean at the beginning of the 20th Century? I have also noticed some these Indian-Caribbeans never want to call themselves what they are Indians!
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Trinidad, 1800s.
When I say coolie I mean Black African Asian mixed peoples not all out Asian Indian peoples who would be Asian.
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Continental Africans have had plenty of contact with Caucasians, it was called colonialism. Hence why many African countries had to fight for their independence from europeans. You mentioned the Mau Mau's who were Kenyan so you should know this already, as they led the fight for independence in Kenya.
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African peoples didn't have european culture so imposed upon them as we did in the carribean and wider Americas. The Asians of Kenya were brought there by the British during the colonial era as 'slaves' to work on train lines and such. Wether they were enslaved or indentured I'm not sure.
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They tapped into the nonsense and ran with it.
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Hmmm... and are still at it.
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Hence why in ALL cultures the lighter you are, the straighter your hair etc the more desirable you are deemed. Why is that?? Because you are closer to resembling a european
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Thats where I'm trying to draw the distinction. Perhaps African women have always had the desire to have more manageable hair as is seen in the North?
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Although I think it has started w/European ideology it is up to Africans to create our own. I know plenty of women who would not want any other hair sitting on their heads, and they are usually the most self-assured and confident ones. But it shouldn't take CONFIDENCE just to go with one's natural style, but unfortunately society has made this almost a necessity and which, as a result, many women who are natural are sensed to have a certain level of confidence.
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Some Black Asians actually exalt darker skinned peoples in the south where many of them escaped Aryan domination. A culture in which we do the same would need to be created in the diaspora or in some places we will run the risk of being washed out.
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There is no such thing as African Asians. The people over there are not black people of African descent.
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Everyone is African.
The peoples of the Middle east, Asia, including south east asia and Australia migrated from Africa 40,000 years ago traveled into the middle east and into Asia, Melenasia and Australia. Hence us being the original peoples although the Aborigines of Australia refute it and claim that they came before us. As said, many North Africans share a linage with those people as they interacted with the continent over the years.
They are Asian, have their own culture and so on (although it has its obvious similarities) but are from Africa. They are our cousins so to speak.
Am not going into a discussion about it please read;
West Papua New Guinea: Interview With Foreign Minister Ben Tanggahma*
AHMUVAN;INDUS SCRIPT AND INDUS VALLEY ASTRONOMY
We as Black peoples are oppressed worldwide, not just in Africa or the diaspora. White people/semites have been committing crimes against us for some time now.
Not to take from our plight but its no small issue, please read those books if you are interested in finding out more.
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