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Default Book Rights for Sale/Auction - 06-08-07, 05:20 PM

Greetings and Blessings to you all.

I am selling the rights to the book I published a year ago. This could be a chance for you to make money if you know about international publishing, but could also be a step into disaster, I will not lie on that one. Get in touch with me for more info.

I have writen a number of articles to explain a few vital issues that you can read here: Coherent Madness: Affective Defense Against Covert Warfare

I welcome comments to these articles, and also to the whole issue of selling book rights if this can bring a few things in proper perspective.

Congrats on a great design BNV, though I miss the descriptive part of mainn threads. Also, how come the link at blackchat.co.uk has not been changed or the text altered?

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Default 08-08-07, 01:10 PM

Did you write that book?

What do you mean, ''Had you kept up with the orders'' ?



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Default 08-08-07, 04:46 PM

I did write the book. finished it last year in June.

I couldn't keep up with orders. isn't that strange, especially in these times when POD is so easy. there are vanity publishers who will print even one copy as soon as an order comes in.

I expected but wasn't sufficiently prepared for what followed after I completed the book; the covert publicity, sudden revelations of a country full to the rafters with pedo's and other criminals not serving their time, including the fact a "lot more" began to go wrong in my life. the arch in my foot collapsed (figuratively speaking).

I suddenly had flat feet, at the wrong time. I had launched a good publicity campaign and had orders coming in but, considering the circumstances, there was no way I was going to keep up. really not much involved if you know self-publishing. the needed orders is the $$$/jackpot/wherewithal, but you need to get a few basics in place before you roll out... like a ready bundle of books, for example.

in order not to disappoint customers who had already placed orders, I refunded their money and put up an out of print notice. I lost a lot of business that way, obviously, since the sign turned potential customers away.

from the rate or speed with which the first orders came in, and the number of visits to the website before the counter was hacked, I can make a rough estimate of the number of direct customers, multiply that with others who will happen by a book that is already in circulation, lying invitingly on a shelf or even at a friend’s place.

I kept that out of print label on the book and failed to raise the bundle, then failed to heed advice from knowledgeable people to put a price tag on the free PDF version (lots of work involved in that too).

to put a long story short, a flow of much needed cash would have made the difference, and that is what has remained so near yet so far. lots of rubbishy things maintaining this state of affairs that you wouldn't believe if told.

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Default 10-08-07, 05:20 PM

Jeez.

Thats got to be the worst thing in business, not being able to furfill orders. Have actually come across the book at one point, think Le Moor talks about it on here as well. It being released on PDF shouldn't/won't hurt it as much as you'd expect. People tend to want a book they like rather than a shuffle of papers. No one ever seems to take in how much it costs to print a full PDF with photos either... a lot of companies exploit the internet passing on the costs to the consumer not as benificial as people would think.

Was recently the focus of some unwarrented attention, posted about it on here and a few days later something else happened. Guess you need to keep up with techology, you could even keep updated and write second volumes and so on.. have seen some that teach basic martial arts, how to handle weapons alongside other things.

If I could I'd seriously consider buying the rights you've probably tried the obvious, getting a loan and other means of funding already... surprised that Print on Demand didn't work out for you have to wait a bit long and some don't print the cover but they're normally reliable.

Why did you make it personal though? Only draws more attention to yourself.



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Default 13-08-07, 11:51 AM

it boils down to start-up capital, Lion. I didn't have enough of that but, with the needs of my situation controlling my decisions, I decided to take a gamble/risk. I have self-published twice before in mainland Europe and was confident I would cope.

I found out too late I could not. my new England life situation stood in the way...

internet orders never take longer than a week to arrive, even international ones. I could have held out and made a week and a half if all else had stayed in place, but a few missteps and mishaps found me in a situation where it became obvious I wouldn't be able to make even two weeks. in the end, my customers come first. some of the people who placed orders were known to me, including authors of similar pieces.

it was better to disappoint by giving back their money and try something else than procrastinate for a distant buck.

I do not see how I could have put across what I did in this piece in a much more effective manner than to be in large part personal. there are a lot of good reasons for this, amounting to killing a few birds with one stone. it's about making a choice between the manners in which a story can best be told. if I can portray the message better using a particular style then bringing attention to myself is the least of my concerns, if you get what I mean. even with that said this is far beyond mere choice of literary style (first-person or third-person narrative). there is also no attempt to be autobiographical since that can be arranged anytime.

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Jeez.

It being released on PDF shouldn't/won't hurt it as much as you'd expect. People tend to want a book they like rather than a shuffle of papers. No one ever seems to take in how much it costs to print a full PDF with photos either... a lot of companies exploit the internet passing on the costs to the consumer not as benificial as people would think. .
partially true. the internet is actually a smaller though significant market where book sales are concerned. it would make a difference but fact remains only a select few people would get the copy. I should want much more out of this venture than that... informing is what matters to me...

remember here that it is much more enjoyable/convenient reading a paperback or hardcover than it is through all that electronics. think of the convenience a few grams of tidily and tightly bundled paper represents... to tuck/shelf then pick up to read on the bus/train, the sofa or by the bedside lamp in one's most comfy position, as opposed to the forced position behind a heavy, breathing laptop, or even worse face the glare of some outdated desktop screen. imagine the market consisting people who have only heard of the internet, who can afford and like reading books; the many millions of people worldwide, particularly in countries with less internet access. consider these and a lot more reasons and you'll recognize a much wider audience than we meet online that's just waiting there to be informed.

the internet is less than it is made out to be. besides, life online is based on searches. what are the chances people will find a particular book given the competition?


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Was recently the focus of some unwarrented attention, posted about it on here and a few days later something else happened.
interesting. what was this exactly? can you post a link?

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If I could I'd seriously consider buying the rights you've probably tried the obvious, getting a loan and other means of funding already...
the only loan I can get at the moment is unsecured and the amounts dished out are too little to suffice. I am trying other avenues of funding. as soon as I succeed I will launch, given I have not sold the rights by then. the book doesn't really need much promotion online. it is already international where this is concerned. I have people from China writing me, Germans and Italians setting up websites where the book is featured, even North Americans and Canadians have links to my website and such on theirs. pity Google keeps diminishing these links every time (conspiracy?), but even now, a year after its release, a simple search will give you an idea of my anguish at the consequences of the "out of print" sign.

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surprised that Print on Demand didn't work out for you have to wait a bit long and some don't print the cover but they're normally reliable.
I self-published in Europe where vanity publishers are much cheaper and more efficient than they are here. I took this into account before I made any moves here, got a list of the very best, excluded internet based publishers because of privacy issues, but then, as I have explained before, things still went wrong. they may be expensive and fewer here but they are reliable. at the end of it all the author has to meet them half way across, which I failed to do.
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Default 23-08-07, 08:15 PM

Have heard its cheaper to publish in plaes like India, did you try there? Forget what it was but I read a book where the author gave the details of publishing houses in Inida as he had had problems getting his book out. Maybe you should try there if you haven't sold the rights already?



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