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Here are the lyrics to Fantasia (US American Idol 2) winner new song. There has been some contraversy over the lyrics. I aminterested in finding out how many others are offendedor not offended by these terms.

B-A-B-Y M-A-M-A
This goes out to all my baby mamas
This goes out to all my baby mamas
B-A-B-Y M-A-M-A
This goes out to all my baby mamas
I got love for all my baby mamas

It's about time we had our own song
Don't know what took so long
Cuz now-a-days it like a badge of honer
To be a baby mama
I see ya payin' ya bills
I see ya workin' ya job
I see ya goin' to school
And girl I know it's hard
And even though ya fed up
With makin' beds up

Girl, keep ya head up
All my

[Chorus]



I see you get that support check in the mail
Ya open it and your like "What the Hell"
You say "This ain't even half of daycare"
Sayin to yourself "This stink ain't fair"
And all my girls who don't get no help
Who gotta do everything by yourself
Remeber: What don't kill you can only make you stronger
My baby mama...

[Chorus]


Cuz we the backbone (of the hood)
I always knew that (that we could)
We can go anywhere, we can do anything
I know we can make it if we dream
And I think it should be a holiday
For single mothers tryin' to make a way
But until then
Here is your song
Show love to my....
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Here are the lyrics to Fantasia (US American Idol 2) winner new song. There has been some contraversy over the lyrics. I aminterested in finding out how many others are offendedor not offended by these terms.

B-A-B-Y M-A-M-A
This goes out to all my baby mamas
This goes out to all my baby mamas
B-A-B-Y M-A-M-A
This goes out to all my baby mamas
I got love for all my baby mamas

It's about time we had our own song
Don't know what took so long
Cuz now-a-days it like a badge of honer
To be a baby mama
I see ya payin' ya bills
I see ya workin' ya job
I see ya goin' to school
And girl I know it's hard
And even though ya fed up
With makin' beds up

Girl, keep ya head up
All my

[Chorus]



I see you get that support check in the mail
Ya open it and your like "What the Hell"
You say "This ain't even half of daycare"
Sayin to yourself "This stink ain't fair"
And all my girls who don't get no help
Who gotta do everything by yourself
Remeber: What don't kill you can only make you stronger
My baby mama...

[Chorus]


Cuz we the backbone (of the hood)
I always knew that (that we could)
We can go anywhere, we can do anything
I know we can make it if we dream
And I think it should be a holiday
For single mothers tryin' to make a way
But until then
Here is your song
Show love to my....
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Post imported post - 22-04-05, 05:33 PM

Why be offended? She is speaking from experience and obviously felt strongly enough to write a song...I respect her, she was taking care of her son alone and found a way to for him and her to want for nothing....

WHa offend me is referring black women as hoes, sluts and hookers... 50 cent proclaiming to be a P.I.M.P while he has a son looking up to him...Juvenile wanting a Project Chick, The Ying Yang twins wanting the females to crawl and blow them until they are skeeted on...

There are alot songs about women that are FAR FAR FAR worse than this...Sheis giving props to what seems to be a growing trend in our society...not a good one, but I am sure most women's life ambition is not to be someones babay mama...

How many rappers have referred to women only in the sexual manner??? Now even the singers are singing how slutty we are...I don't see a problem with it her song...

Oh...She was Idol#3





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After a quarrel, a husband said to his wife, \"I was a fool when I married you.\" she replied \"yes dear, but I was in love and didn\'t notice.\"
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Post imported post - 22-04-05, 06:15 PM

I actually like it! I feel like its a good song because single mothers are taken for granted , used and under appriciated. i dont see or hear how its wrong or offensive.

The first time i heard the song andi was laying in bed next to my daughter and i heard the words, I felt (assillyas it may sound) not so alone and stranded.there is some logic to itthat may be single mothers can understand.It's a decent song. Plus fantasia has a one ofa kindvoice.

I'd rather hear uplifting songs then to hear about ass, money, cars, hoes, jewels, and all the other materialistic crap in certain lyrics.

People may not like it because she is a black women ,single with child, and this wouldcreate a stereotype towards black women . If there is not one out there already.
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Post imported post - 22-04-05, 07:30 PM

not offended by the song as it just highlights the stuff mums go through who support their kids on their own

you can either be a single mother basher

or tell her some encouraging words to help lift herself up out the gutter if she is in one


Think outside of the box...Think in spirit

Act as if it were impossible to fail!!!
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HERE IS AN ARTICLE FROM BLACKAMERICAWEB ABOUT THIS


Commentary: New Nominee for Grand Prize in the Stupidity Sweepstakes? Fantasia's 'Baby Mama'

Date: Wednesday, April 06, 2005
By: Gregory Kane, BlackAmericaWeb.com

There’s a Stupidity Sweepstakes going on in black America, and some folks are determined to win the prize.

First we had Destiny’s Child, those pulchritudinous but apparently daft lasses who gave us a song about their beloved “souljahs.�

A brother “had to be street if he’s looking at me,� the trio told us. If the guy’s status wasn’t “hood,� they “weren’t checkin’ for him.�

Not to be outdone in the Stupidity Sweepstakes — there must be one heck of a prize for the winner — we now have Fantasia putting in her bid for a victory. Her latest song, now stinking out airwaves near you, is called “Baby Mama.�

Fantasia, winner of last year’s “American Idol� contest, dedicates the song “to all my baby mamas.� Being a baby mama these days, Fantasia tells us, is a “badge of honor.� Those “single mothers trying to make a way,� she goes on, should have their own holiday.

And I thought that Destiny’s Child had dredged the depths of doofus with their song about “souljahs.�

As I listened to Fantasia caterwauling about how great it is to be a “baby mama,� I was reminded once again why I hate the show “American Idol.� It’s not just that it has those with no talent judging the minimally talented (I exclude the gorgeous AND talented Paula Abdul from that assertion). It’s that any of us can go to any storefront church in black America and find better singers than the ones that appear on the show.

That’s bad enough. But now we have one of these marginally talented “winners� running around the country extolling the virtues of making a mistake?

Let’s face it: that’s what many “baby mamas� have done. They got knocked up by some loser who couldn’t or wouldn’t marry them. That’s a mistake. You don’t go around singing songs praising your mistakes. You correct them.

But let’s assume -— and believe me, this is only for argument’s sake -— that Fantasia is right, and that “baby mamas� do deserve praise. Why do they deserve more praise than the sisters who decide to get married and then have children? Why do “baby mamas� deserve more praise than those sisters who decided to wait before either having children or getting married and decided to attend college and get a career and degree first?

And isn’t Fantasia ignoring the wealth of problems single motherhood has brought black America? If I’ve heard one person involved in juvenile justice matters tell me once, they’ve told me a score of times: most of the young black men in “the system� come from homes with a single mother. No father around. In a town like Baltimore, where 75 percent of black boys don’t graduate from high school, you can bet most of those dropouts are the sons of “baby mamas.�

Speaking at Morgan State University two years ago, author Jawanza Kunjufu told a room full of black folks that “the greatest demon in black America is fatherlessness. The common variable for the black dropout rate, the incarceration rate and drug use is the daddy didn’t stay.�

Kunjufu noted that 90 percent of black families had a father in the home in 1920 and 80 percent as recently as 1960. Today the figure is 32 percent.

“Slavery did not destroy the black family,� Kunjufu correctly concluded.

It took a value shift of seismic proportion among black Americans of the latter part of the 20th century to do what slavery, white racists and white racism couldn’t do in the hundreds of years before. And now we have dimwitted people like Fantasia celebrating that value shift in songs extolling the virtues of being a “baby mama.�

She’ll have her defenders, I’m sure. There’ll be folks saying that some baby mamas do wonders for their children, struggle against overwhelming odds and have it going on.

But included in the baby mama numbers are those teen-age girls -— poor, uneducated and unemployed -— who do neither themselves nor their children a favor by giving birth too soon. It also includes those baby mamas on crack or heroin who shouldn’t even have thought of conceiving a child. And Fantasia’s song was a tribute to all baby mamas.

“All� is one of the least ambiguous words in the English language. It doesn’t mean some. It doesn’t mean most.

“All� means all.












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HERE IS 2ND ARTICLE AFTER THE MAN GOT BESEIGED WUTH COMPLAINTS

Lordy, Lordy, it’s worse than I thought.

When I wrote the my column on Fantasia’s “Baby Mama� monstrosity two weeks ago, I expected to hear from her fans. I expected to hear from folks who disagreed.

Boy, did I ever.

But I didn’t expect to hear from folks who claimed I didn’t know what a “baby mama� is. My definition was a woman who got pregnant by some loser who couldn’t or wouldn’t marry her.

Believe me, I was much too kind.

Peruse these definitions from UrbanDictionary.com:

* “The mother of your child(ren), whom you did not marry and with whom you are not currently involved.�
* “Basically a woman you had a child or children with who you didn’t marry and are no longer involved with. Usually associated with hoodrats and trailer park b***hes.�
* “Like herpes, it won’t go away!!!!!�

Clearly the guys who thought of these definitions don’t think of the term “baby mama� as a compliment. They consider it a slur, as derogatory a term for women as ‘ho, the B-word and chickenhead. And no, you don’t want to know UrbanDictionary.com’s definition of chickenhead. But I’m sure a song extolling the glory of being one is on some singer or rapper’s must-do list.

It sounds suspiciously like the guys who gave us the term “baby mama� are the same ones running around with their pants down over their butts. They’re the ones who elevated the “gangsta,� “pimp� and “thug� to near-hero status in black America. They’re the ones running around using bad English and engaging in worse conduct.

These are guys cut from the same cloth as the “brother� who broke into Rosa Parks’ Detroit home. When our living civil rights heroine and legend asked the “brother� if he knew who she was, he answered that he didn’t know, and he didn’t care.

These are the guys of the same ilk as the ones who firebombed the house of Edna McAbier, a Baltimore black woman who demanded they stop dealing drugs in her neighborhood.

What woman in her right mind would call herself by a term thought of by these cretins?

There are, indeed, “baby mamas� out there. Some of the women who reacted to my Fantasia column described themselves as such. They’re mistaken.

If you’re divorced and have children, you’re a divorced mother. If you’re a widow and have children, you’re a widowed mother. If you’re single and have children, but the father isn’t part of the miscreant horde described above, you’re a single mother.

And if you did have a child by one of these characters, you are indeed a “baby mama.�

It’s all about how we define ourselves. Lately in black America, we’ve been doing a poor job of it. After going through the pain and angst about what to properly call ourselves — I’ve been colored, Negro, black and African-American in a single lifetime — we now want to describe ourselves as gangstas, thugs, pimps and baby mamas. These aren’t terms that come from the best among us. These are terms that come from black America’s sewer. Some of us reject them. Some of us embrace them.

The fact that so many of us embrace them shows the cultural shift that has occurred among black Americans. You wouldn’t have heard black radio stations playing a song like “Baby Mama� 50 years ago. Black folks wouldn’t have tolerated it.

In fact, it was almost exactly 50 years ago that a black female refused to give up her seat to a white person on a bus in Montgomery, Ala. No, it wasn’t Parks. Her act of defiance didn’t come until December of that year.

It was a 15-year-old girl named Claudette Colvin. But the NAACP didn’t think it was wise to make her the symbol of the fight to desegregate buses. When police arrested her, Colvin used language black onlookers thought unbecoming.

And she was a couple of months pregnant.

The purpose of this anecdote is not to pass judgment on Colvin or any single mothers living today. It’s to show the shift in values that has occurred in black America. Are we better for that shift, or worse?

Did we aid and abet our own degradation more then?

Or now?


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He who asks is a fool for five minutes. He who never asks remains a fool for ever.
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Post imported post - 22-04-05, 11:20 PM

Definitely some valid points but i dont think Fantasia meant it that way. I admit when i first heard the song i was like what garbage is this but looking at the lyrics i guess she meant it in an uplifting kind of way like keep taking care of your kids the right way. But then again that's your job and the things she listed that's what every black woman should be doing child or childless. Wheres the badge of honour really in that? in a way it is like praising a bad decision. Im sorry for the mixed opinion im a libra. lol
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Post imported post - 23-04-05, 12:05 AM

I think the lyrics are very sweet...................the lyrics apply to all single mother, whether unmarried, divorced, separated, widowed.....its really about women taking full care and responsibilityfor the children which they were only half responsible for making.

There are single father's out there too....and Lord knows about those angels of grandparents and aunties, bigger sisters and cousins who take children in and raise them....................they should most definately be praised, it's the best side of human beings in my opinion.

"you go 'Tasia".....................(I think she engaged now anyway)
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Post imported post - 23-04-05, 05:33 AM

Am I the only one that agrees with Gregory Kane's article? I guess the truth hurts. It is a song definetly for those who consider themselves a "baby momma". Because those who don't hate the song and think it is degrading.

How can it be a "badge of honor" to be a "baby's mama"? In my humble opinion, I think it is horrible that somebody thought it necessary to write about and sing the praises of Black children being born out of wedlock (over 70%) This horrible phenomenon is the catalyst to a number of problems in our communities.

My question is this, would Lindsey Lohan, Hillary Duff, Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears or any other of them other white teeny-bopper girls sing that song? How would the white general public respond if they did? But because it's a single BLACK female singing this song, it's okay.
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Post imported post - 23-04-05, 05:39 AM

Sorry gang but I turn the station everytime this song is being played. The term "baby's momma" is never used in a positive undertone.

Let's get honest we all know what were refer to when we say "She's a baby's momma" vs. "She's a single mother."
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Sorry gang but I turn the station everytime this song is being played. The term "baby's momma" is never used in a positive undertone.

Let's get honest we all know what were refer to when we say "She's a baby's momma" vs. "She's a single mother."
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...so what's the difference between a "baby momma" and a single mother in practical terms ?
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